President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

It was an absolute, facked up short play for them. Can't be much confidence from the middle 50, ideologically, that they have a long term plan that's prudent by allowing AOC to take the lead
Sounds like it might be Operation Find Whitey

 
I vehemently disagree that neither tribe opposes each other. My God, man, Congress can't get anything done of importance because they hate each other. It's so ****ing personal for many of them that they don't even consider any compromise for the greater good. It has gradually gotten worse post 9/11/2001

Getting Bin Laden almost had no effect on this phenomena. The advent of social media has been an adverse catalyst in the deteriorating discourse
You’re making my point for me.
They don’t want to accomplish anything. That’s the plan.
Let’s take immigration as an example. If they got together and did immigration reform…… made it so the quality people could come in and the criminals were kept out…..they’d be giving up their campaign issues they don’t want to actually solve any problems. The last major policy change was the affordable care act which actually didn’t do anything other than line the pockets of insurance companies…..and manufactured an issue to argue about
 
You’re making my point for me.
They don’t want to accomplish anything. That’s the plan.
Let’s take immigration as an example. If they got together and did immigration reform…… made it so the quality people could come in and the criminals were kept out…..they’d be giving up their campaign issues they don’t want to actually solve any problems. The last major policy change was the affordable care act which actually didn’t do anything other than line the pockets of insurance companies…..and manufactured an issue to argue about
Yes, of course, reelection is entirely the goal of most of them. What they don't get is that so many before them served lengthy terms because they did compromise to enact legislation that benefited the middle 50
 
Sounds like it might be Operation Find Whitey

It's ok that both parties have fringe elements for nothing other than keeping the fringe on board. Allowing them to take over the parties has fractured this country. Again, and forgive the redundancy, social media has been the catalyst for the heightened, negative discourse. Many who are players in this 3 ring circus should have a tremendous amount of gratitude for Rupert Murdoch. 🤭🤣😯
 
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This will based on the conservative principals of limited federal government power, no doubt.

the gov't has been subsidizing "big pharma" for years, (not a consevative principle) and in turn big pharma has been charging taxpayers out the bazoo. Though what Trump is doing is not truly conservative, Trump is looking out for the US taxpayers while leveling the playing field where other countries will have to pay more.


from GROK

the U.S. government subsidizes pharmaceutical companies, primarily through indirect mechanisms rather than direct cash payments. These subsidies take several forms, rooted in public funding and policy incentives that reduce costs for private companies. Here’s a breakdown based on available evidence:

Publicly Funded Research: The National Institutes of Health (NIH) and other federal agencies fund basic and applied biomedical research, which pharmaceutical companies often rely on to develop new drugs. For example, a study found that NIH spent $187 billion on research related to 356 drugs approved between 2010 and 2019, covering basic science and some applied research. Every one of the 210 drugs approved from 2010 to 2016 benefited from publicly funded research, either directly or indirectly. This public investment reduces the industry’s R&D costs, as companies can build on government-funded discoveries without bearing the initial financial risk

Tax Credits and Deductions:
The federal government provides tax incentives that lower the cost of drug development. The R&D tax credit, made permanent in 2015, allows pharmaceutical companies to offset costs for developing new products or processes. Additionally, deductions for marketing and advertising expenses—estimated at $29.9 billion from 1997 to 2016—further reduce tax liabilities. Tax breaks on offshore profits, like those following the 2017 tax law, also benefit companies, with firms like Eli Lilly saving billions

Medicare and Medicaid Subsidies: Government programs like Medicare Part D and Medicaid increase demand for prescription drugs by subsidizing purchases, effectively guaranteeing revenue for pharmaceutical companies. In 2019, federal, state, and local governments funded about 60% of outpatient retail drug costs, totaling roughly $208 billion. These programs often pay prices tied to private market rates, which can be inflated, indirectly subsidizing companies by ensuring high profit margins

Patent Protections and Market Exclusivity: The U.S. patent system and FDA regulations grant pharmaceutical companies periods of market exclusivity, delaying generic competition. This allows firms to set high prices without market pressure, effectively acting as a subsidy by guaranteeing profits. The Bayh-Dole Act enables companies to commercialize federally funded research while retaining exclusive rights, raising concerns about whether the public receives adequate returns

Specific Examples: Taxpayer-funded drugs like Taxol, developed through NIH research and licensed to Bristol-Myers Squibb, show how companies profit from public investment. Medicare spent nearly $700 million over five years on Taxol, despite its government-funded origins. A 2024 report highlighted that all 10 drugs up for Medicare price negotiations received $11.7 billion in taxpayer-funded research, yet generated $70 billion in revenue for companies in 2022 alone

However, the pharmaceutical industry argues that their role in late-stage development, clinical trials, and commercialization justifies their profits, as these stages require significant private investment (estimated at $1.5 billion per drug). They also note that NIH funding focuses on basic science, which lacks immediate commercial value without private-sector translation. Critics counter that taxpayers “pay twice”—first through taxes for research and again through high drug prices—without mechanisms like reasonable pricing clauses to ensure affordability
 
This will based on the conservative principals of limited federal government power, no doubt.
Maybe. Trump all of a sudden seems to be moving back to the center with his declaration that he's going to raise taxes on those making 2.5 sticks and higher on yearly income. This prediction drugs cost reduction raises the other eyebrow. Trump, ultimately wants to make EVERYONE happy! We can hope he is having a late life epiphany to stroke his ego
 
Maybe. Trump all of a sudden seems to be moving back to the center with his declaration that he's going to raise taxes on those making 2.5 sticks and higher on yearly income. This prediction drugs cost reduction raises the other eyebrow. Trump, ultimately wants to make EVERYONE happy! We can hope he is having a late life epiphany to stroke his ego
Trump not exactly on board with raising taxes on the 'rich' but if it gets the bill passed and extends his tax cuts from his 1st term and enacts new tax cuts (no tax on tips, social security and overtime) then Trump reluctantly goes along with it. Wealthy liberals have complained they're not paying enough in taxes anyway

 
I thought this drug plan sounded familiar. Most Favored Nation.


Trump did this in his first term, it got bogged down in the courts, and then Biden killed it.

I was also wondering the “how” in this. The mechanism is the Medicare drug pricing list which makes sense since that’s all the Feds control. But a lot of private insurers use that price list also.

So let’s see how it plays out I guess. It technically isn’t a new price fixing plan as Medicare already has a drug pricing list.
 
the gov't has been subsidizing "big pharma" for years, (not a consevative principle) and in turn big pharma has been charging taxpayers out the bazoo. Though what Trump is doing is not truly conservative, Trump is looking out for the US taxpayers while leveling the playing field where other countries will have to pay more.
OK. Why stop there? How about an executive order capping the price of gasoline at $2/gallon?
 
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OK. Why stop there? How about an executive order capping the price of gasoline at $2/gallon?
availability of oil affects gas prices...Biden attacks oil companies gas goes up, Trump reverses Biden attacks gas goes down. So there is no need for price capping on gas.... just keep Dems from damaging the oil business and creating inflation and gas prices will be fine market driven.

most subsidies for oil companies comes in the form of tax breaks...oil companies keep more of their own profits thereby keeping gas prices low...

from GROK:

The U.S. government provides various subsidies to oil companies, primarily through tax breaks and incentives embedded in the tax code. Estimates of direct subsidies range from $10 billion to $52 billion annually, with a commonly cited figure around $20.5 billion, including $14.7 billion in federal subsidies and $5.8 billion in state-level incentives. Key subsidies include

Intangible Drilling Costs Deduction: Allows companies to deduct most costs of drilling new wells, estimated to reduce federal revenue by $13 billion over a decade

Percentage Depletion Allowance: Permits companies to deduct a percentage of gross income (up to 15%) to account for declining production, costing about $12.9 billion over 10 years

Master Limited Partnerships (MLPs): Oil and gas companies structured as MLPs avoid corporate income taxes, a benefit not available to renewable energy firms.

Additionally, implicit subsidies arise from unpriced externalities like environmental damage and health impacts from pollution, with the IMF estimating these at $646 billion annually in the U.S. alone. Globally, fossil fuel subsidies reached $7 trillion in 2022, or 7.1% of GDP, driven by both explicit payments and undercharging for environmental costs

Proponents argue these tax breaks are standard deductions, not direct handouts, and that oil companies pay significant taxes (e.g., ExxonMobil paid $13.8 billion in income taxes in 2024). They claim subsidies stabilize energy prices for consumers. Critics, however, highlight that subsidies distort markets, favor fossil fuels over renewables, and exacerbate climate change, with the industry profiting massively (e.g., $953.14 billion in profits for top U.S. firms from 2017–2022) (jmacvols1 comment: green energy is garbage. how many green companies did Dems give grants/subsidies to only for those companies go bankrupt and taxpayer money gone into pockets of the owners. Also, man made global warming is a lie and lies should not be subsidized)

Efforts to phase out subsidies, pledged by G20 nations since 2009, face political resistance due to industry lobbying and concerns over energy price spikes. Biden’s 2024 budget proposed eliminating $35 billion in tax breaks over a decade, but Congress has not acted. Posts on X reflect public frustration, noting subsidies persist despite record oil profits
 
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