Heupel’s contract

#27
#27
Not coming clean about Nico's family extortion ring back in January. The rumors were already out there, about Nico threatening to hold out of the playoff game. Instead of doing the right thing and telling Nico to leave, Heupel tried to cover it up (going into Spring camp pretenders all was well eith the QB situation was a cover up),until the situation blowed up in his face and now the Vols dont have a legit QB heading into next season. Heupel being lazy will eventually catch up to him.

Long story short, your coach lied to all of us.
How stupid are you? You know how much crap goes on behind the scenes? Fans have no business knowing most of this stuff. Kids are immature, families are at times stupid; you just don’t air that dirty laundry until you have to.
 
#28
#28
Not coming clean about Nico's family extortion ring back in January. The rumors were already out there, about Nico threatening to hold out of the playoff game. Instead of doing the right thing and telling Nico to leave, Heupel tried to cover it up (going into Spring camp pretenders all was well eith the QB situation was a cover up),until the situation blowed up in his face and now the Vols dont have a legit QB heading into next season. Heupel being lazy will eventually catch up to him.

Long story short, your coach lied to all of us.
Ha! You’re funny with your “Heupel being lazy” and “your coach”. Good stuff.
 
#30
#30
ADs should all collude to quit giving huge raises short of bringing home championships (or goin to a bowl game if you’re Vandy). Healthy Bonuses for achievements that fall short of a championship should be more than sufficient.

Not specific to CJH, but I am wondering if the Nico saga has opened eyes about coaching salaries as well. It seems that "building a program" isn't really the thing right now, just buying players, coaching them well enough, and getting out of their way.

Perhaps ADs are going to say, "we can get another coach who can buy players, coach them well enough and get out of their way for a lot less money. It frees up the cash for more/better players".

One would think that after the fiasco at aTm and Jimbo Fisher, as well as Lincoln Riley at USC, schools would be rethinking how much a coach should cost. Especially when the money could be going to players.
 
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Not coming clean about Nico's family extortion ring back in January. The rumors were already out there, about Nico threatening to hold out of the playoff game. Instead of doing the right thing and telling Nico to leave, Heupel tried to cover it up (going into Spring camp pretenders all was well eith the QB situation was a cover up),until the situation blowed up in his face and now the Vols dont have a legit QB heading into next season. Heupel being lazy will eventually catch up to him.

Long story short, your coach lied to all of us.
Intemperance and indiscretion are why most VN members could never be a coach or AD.
 
#34
#34
Not specific to CJH, but I am wondering if the Nico saga has opened eyes about coaching salaries as well. It seems that "building a program" isn't really the thing right now, just buying players, coaching them well enough, and getting out of their way.

Perhaps ADs are going to say, "we can get another coach who can buy players, coach them well enough and get out of their way for a lot less money. It frees up the cash for more/better players".

One would think that after the fiasco at aTm and Jimbo Fisher, as well as Lincoln Riley at USC, schools would be rethinking how much a coach should cost. Especially when the money could be going to players.
It has gotten overshadowed by the NIL madness, but coaching salaries have absolutely gotten way out of hand as well. It would be nice if we could get it all under control.
 
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#37
#37
How can any sane person justify giving him another extension after the Ohio State playoff embarrassment and the Nico ordeal that he tried to cover up?
Trying to keep your 5* QB in the fold by not airing a private discussion publicly is not a “cover up,” it’s just business.

Username checks out, though.
 
#38
#38
Not specific to CJH, but I am wondering if the Nico saga has opened eyes about coaching salaries as well. It seems that "building a program" isn't really the thing right now, just buying players, coaching them well enough, and getting out of their way.

Perhaps ADs are going to say, "we can get another coach who can buy players, coach them well enough and get out of their way for a lot less money. It frees up the cash for more/better players".

One would think that after the fiasco at aTm and Jimbo Fisher, as well as Lincoln Riley at USC, schools would be rethinking how much a coach should cost. Especially when the money could be going to players.
Except the schools don’t pay the players the collectives do. And the collectives don’t pay the coaches.
 
#39
#39
ADs should all collude to quit giving huge raises short of bringing home championships (or goin to a bowl game if you’re Vandy). Healthy Bonuses for achievements that fall short of a championship should be more than sufficient.
Have you seen what pro aths make even when their team finishes last? No one is accountable for anything
 
#40
#40
Have you seen what pro aths make even when their team finishes last? No one is accountable for anything
Those pro sports have billionaires floating the expenses and get revenue in return, which is generated by the players, who deserve a big cut. The people floating many of the expenses for college programs (donors) get not one penny from any revenue generated, and the schools have to subsidize a whole lot of other sports that lose money. There’s no world where Mark Stoops should be making close to 10 mil a year.
 
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#41
#41
Not coming clean about Nico's family extortion ring back in January. The rumors were already out there, about Nico threatening to hold out of the playoff game. Instead of doing the right thing and telling Nico to leave, Heupel tried to cover it up (going into Spring camp pretenders all was well eith the QB situation was a cover up),until the situation blowed up in his face and now the Vols dont have a legit QB heading into next season. Heupel being lazy will eventually catch up to him.

Long story short, your coach lied to all of us.
" your" coach? That's all the troll garbage I need to see. Mods can we finally ban this dude?
 
#42
#42
Why bury the actual topic of a thread behind a click? "Surprised CJH" could mean almost anything.
The new way of social media when you turn your laptop on, an array of just have to click topic headlines. That turn out to be nothing burgers or just flat out lies. I've realized, especially on the most salacious if it was true, you would have already heard on TV ticker/radio ad nauseam. New culture and a lot to hate.
 
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#44
#44
cover up? please explain, seems to me it was pretty wide open and the family got exposed
Not having a press conference and interviewing on ESPN or posting it on Twitter, Facebook, tik tok, Instagram and any other social media platform available to the whole world = cover up.
 
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#46
#46
Heupel will have job security. If not here it will be somewhere else. Tennessee football has turned into a cash cow after being on the ropes before he got here. Not keeping him locked in is beyond short sighted; it’s Fing stupid beyond words. Bright side is if they let Heupel leave you’ll have something to bitch about for the next decade.

Do you actually think a contract extension means anything anymore…….
Coaches just like NIL players leave whenever they want. Apparently money means nothing, as another school just comes along and offers more. Sad part is, its the fans money they spend, so no big deal. Kinda like the government spending tax money, no big deal. Cal basically had a lifetime contract with Ky. How’d that turn out.
The coach has to want to be at the school. Money alone won’t do it. That is exactly why a successful school has a school president, ad, and all others on the same page to create an atmosphere for success.
 
#47
#47
Not coming clean about Nico's family extortion ring back in January. The rumors were already out there, about Nico threatening to hold out of the playoff game. Instead of doing the right thing and telling Nico to leave, Heupel tried to cover it up (going into Spring camp pretenders all was well eith the QB situation was a cover up),until the situation blowed up in his face and now the Vols dont have a legit QB heading into next season. Heupel being lazy will eventually catch up to him.

Long story short, your coach lied to all of us.
Let me try and help you, not very likely but I am a sucker. No coach is going to go public with that kind of inside subterfuge (that means shady dealings, I sense the need to explain the bigger words to you). He played it correctly by putting the ball in Nico's hands and he played an unpredictable and insane card and lost. I believe the coaching staff was truly surprised by Nico's insane and illogical actions.
Coaches don't throw players of the team for rumors. When Nico acted, Heup responded appropriately. If a player is willing to go to length of losing a million dollars or more then their is little a coach can do.
 
#48
#48
I don't want to throw cold water on everybody's warm fizzys party but I will. We simply cannot have a coach on The Hill at UT that cannot beat a team in our conference. Heupel has beaten two out of our Big 3 in Florida and Bama. He however has not put a team on the field yet that has beaten Georgia. Until he does, no more extensions, no more pushing the idea he can be a long term guy. If he cannot do it, find somebody who can. To my point we have a street named after a venerated VFL in Johnny Majors. We fired him when t was thought he couldn't get by Bama any longer. If we can fire Johnny Majors we can fire Josh Heupel. I'm not recommending that occur now, but I do recommend if we REALLY want to be in the conversation for NCs, UGA has to be beaten by Heupel in the next few years or he needs to go.
 
#49
#49
I don't want to throw cold water on everybody's warm fizzys party but I will. We simply cannot have a coach on The Hill at UT that cannot beat a team in our conference. Heupel has beaten two out of our Big 3 in Florida and Bama. He however has not put a team on the field yet that has beaten Georgia. Until he does, no more extensions, no more pushing the idea he can be a long term guy. If he cannot do it, find somebody who can. To my point we have a street named after a venerated VFL in Johnny Majors. We fired him when t was thought he couldn't get by Bama any longer. If we can fire Johnny Majors we can fire Josh Heupel. I'm not recommending that occur now, but I do recommend if we REALLY want to be in the conversation for NCs, UGA has to be beaten by Heupel in the next few years or he needs to go.
Can’t agree with the value of our coaches being judged solely on the w/l of our team against a single other conference team which has been on a program historic run recently. Things like creating a stable healthy program that’s consistently competing for a spot in the playoffs comprised of players who are representing the university well would be better criteria. JMO, TIFWIW
 
#50
#50
I don't want to throw cold water on everybody's warm fizzys party but I will. We simply cannot have a coach on The Hill at UT that cannot beat a team in our conference. Heupel has beaten two out of our Big 3 in Florida and Bama. He however has not put a team on the field yet that has beaten Georgia. Until he does, no more extensions, no more pushing the idea he can be a long term guy. If he cannot do it, find somebody who can. To my point we have a street named after a venerated VFL in Johnny Majors. We fired him when t was thought he couldn't get by Bama any longer. If we can fire Johnny Majors we can fire Josh Heupel. I'm not recommending that occur now, but I do recommend if we REALLY want to be in the conversation for NCs, UGA has to be beaten by Heupel in the next few years or he needs to go.
Damn
 
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