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OHvol40 said:
Better deals? The only thing Trump is accomplishing on the international stage so far is the spread of liberalism. He’s literally losing elections for foreign candidates just because he’s affiliated with conservatism.
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i will wait to judge him until the deals are completed.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Trumps paying tens of millions of dollars for 125,000 federal workers to sit at home and collect a paycheck until Sept 30, AND then let them retire. He's a finance guru!
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You have obviously never worked with or within the government. If you did, you would know just how hard it is to immediately terminate those people.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
For starters not suicide the entire international trade market all at once. And I’ve already said what I’d do. Go after China hard and then hold them up as an example behind closed doors on what we are willing to do. But I don’t play 5d checkers and can consider not playing out international trade policy in an open public social media venue like a reality tv show.

However it isn’t my problem to solve now is it? That doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on something being fundamentally stupid and this world wide trade war is fundamentally stupid
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IMO, he thinks China is a lot harder to break. The rest of the world will be easier.
 
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Orangeburst said:
The severity of the crisis is underscored by the fact that the UN has had to take out a loan from the World Bank to cover its operating expenses. This marks a rare instance where the UN has resorted to borrowing to maintain its financial stability. Such a move raises questions about the long-term sustainability of the organization’s operations.
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There are few organizations I would rather see go bankrupt.
 
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volbeast33 said:
IMO, he thinks China is a lot harder to break. The rest of the world will be easier.
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That isn’t a basis to suicide the rest of the world along with ourselves in the process when we know China is the primary target.

Look I get it. A lot of y’all will take what Trump offers and not question it one bit. I’m not one of those people. His world wide trade war is stupid and not productive. And I’ve seen nothing to indicate otherwise to date.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Didn’t say that now did I? I have no issue with methodically renegotiating deals. However that isn’t what he did. He stupidly imposed worldwide oppressive tariffs with the basis of those tariffs being a trade imbalance but he claimed the tariffs were reciprocal. They were no such thing. He gas lighted all of you to your face on the tariff basis and you swallowed it whole.
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He knows that the rest of the world will drag it's feet for the next 4 years if he didn't hit them in the face. He did exactly that. They ain't dragging their feet. What you don't like is the initial pain from ripping the bandaid. You would rather a long 30 year pull. This way is better because no one else has the stones to even talk about it much less try it.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Then he got the USMCA wrong! You can’t have it both ways.
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My goodness. You expect him to be above fault with every decision.... Things change over time. USMCA was 5 years ago (or so). We had 4 years of Soetoro 2.0 or Puddinhead (whichever you believe was REALLY in charge). Yet you expect those decisions to stand the complete test of time. I'll accept that maybe USMCA was wrong, or just maybe because of the damage Puddin did, it needs to be updated.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm not the idiot who is applauding the pending collapse of the United Nations .... nor am I an idiot carrying water for Trump's atrocious efforts of "diplomacy," including his disastrous tariffs.

This presidency is going to be a catastrophe which the United States may never recover from.
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**** the UN
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
For starters not suicide the entire international trade market all at once. And I’ve already said what I’d do. Go after China hard and then hold them up as an example behind closed doors on what we are willing to do. But I don’t play 5d checkers and can consider not playing out international trade policy in an open public social media venue like a reality tv show.

However it isn’t my problem to solve now is it? That doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on something being fundamentally stupid and this world wide trade war is fundamentally stupid
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iu
 
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OHvol40 said:
Better deals? The only thing Trump is accomplishing on the international stage so far is the spread of liberalism. He’s literally losing elections for foreign candidates just because he’s affiliated with conservatism.
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Europe is a lost cause anyway.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
That isn’t a basis to suicide the rest of the world along with ourselves in the process when we know China is the primary target.

Look I get it. A lot of y’all will take what Trump offers and kit question it one bit. I’m not one of this people. His word wide trade war is stupid and not productive. And I’ve seen nothing to indicate otherwise to date.
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nothing has been suicided
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
He knows that the rest of the world will drag it's feet for the next 4 years if he didn't hit them in the face. He did exactly that. They ain't dragging their feet. What you don't like is the initial pain from ripping the bandaid. You would rather a long 30 year pull. This way is better because no one else has the stones to even talk about it much less try it.
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BS. He isn’t some 4D chess master here and after he got relevant feedback from people who actually know what’s going on, IE not Howard Lutnick, he quickly rolled them back. The clear lesson here is Trump’s business acumen in real estate development doesn’t translate well to international trade policy.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
My goodness. You expect him to be above fault with every decision.... Things change over time. USMCA was 5 years ago (or so). We had 4 years of Soetoro 2.0 or Puddinhead (whichever you believe was REALLY in charge). Yet you expect those decisions to stand the complete test of time. I'll accept that maybe USMCA was wrong, or just maybe because of the damage Puddin did, it needs to be updated.
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No I’d be willing to accept batting 500
 
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volbeast33 said:
Who staged this intervention?
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Well I remember Jamie Dimon being explicitly named as one of the actual knowledgeable people who spoke to Trump on it.

A quick google search found this list of people. How many actually spoke to Trump listed here I am not sure I remember reading Dimon did. Note the date on the article. April 7. The day when Biden’s market ended and Trump’s started amirite?

www.nbcnews.com

'A critical crossroads': Business leaders speak out against Trump's trade war with the world

“Without faith that our government knows what it is doing, it is impossible for businesses to thrive,” one CEO told CNBC.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

You already got your next “bring me a rock” question lined up on deck don’t you?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
BS. He isn’t some 4D chess master here and after he got relevant feedback from people who actually know what’s going on, IE not Howard Lutnick, he quickly rolled them back. The clear lesson here is Trump’s business acumen in real estate development doesn’t translate well to international trade policy.
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Gotcha. So let's go back to the old ways. They worked so well.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Well I remember Jamie Dimon being explicitly named as one of the actual knowledgeable people who spoke to Trump on it.

A quick google search found this list of people. How many actually spoke to Trump listed here I am not sure I remember reading Dimon did. Note the date on the article. April 7. The day when Biden’s market ended and Trump’s started amirite?

www.nbcnews.com

'A critical crossroads': Business leaders speak out against Trump's trade war with the world

“Without faith that our government knows what it is doing, it is impossible for businesses to thrive,” one CEO told CNBC.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

You already got your next “bring me a rock” question lined up on deck don’t you?
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Jamie Dimon belongs in prison. He's about as deep as deep state gets.
 
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