The NFL Draft Proved the '24 Vols OVERACHIEVED!

[OneManGang]

I'm somewhat surprised none of you guys picked up on this.

We were all butthurt about the a$$ whoopin' Ohio State put on our beloved Vols to kick off their run through the playoffs to the title. Their only really significant opposition came from Texas.

OSU 42 Tennessee 17 - wasn't that close. Losing Sampson made UT one-dimensional

OSU 41 Oregon 21 - wasn't that close

OSU 28 Texas 14 - see draft #s

OSU 34 Notre Dame 23 - wasn't that close

NFL Draft OSU led all schools with 14 players drafted, Texas had 12, Oregon 10, Notre Dame, 6. Notice a pattern?

Tennessee was anchor man of the schools OSU played in the playoffs with only 4.

Of the SEC schools Tennessee played:

Georgia came in second over all with 13 picks & beat the Vols 31-17. Won SEC, lost in the playoffs to ND due to Beck getting injured in the SECG which made them essentially one-dimensional. An NC game between the Dawgs with Carson Beck and OSU would have been one for the ages with UGA slightly more likely to win due to NC experience.

2024 SEC season for the Vols:

Tennessee beat Alabama and Florida: each with 7 picks

Lost to Arkansas with 2 picks: blind hog theorem

Beat Kentucky (2), Oklahoma (2), Vandy (1), MSU (0) the pattern holds.

O/A the SEC had 79 picks, the BiG 71. There was a steep drop between OSU and Oregon and the rest of the conference.

As Ol' Nappy said, "God is on the side of the big battalions."

 

[IndianaVol]

I'm flumoxed Texas didn't put up a better fight against OSU with all their talent.

But, YES, totally agree...the 2024 version of the Vols did overachieve. I, myself, only had them at 7 to 8 wins before the season...as did most "pundits".

 

[rocytop2624]

I'm flumoxed Texas didn't put up a better fight against OSU with all their talent.

But, YES, totally agree...the 2024 version of the Vols did overachieve. I, myself, only had them at 7 to 8 wins before the season...as did most "pundits".

I had them 10-2

 

[IndianaVol]

I had them 10-2

Not knowing what the O Line and Defense were going to be squelched my optimism...glad I was proven wrong.

 

[Tin Man]

As in every preseason, when hope springs eternal, I foretell that the Vols will be undefeated until they ain’t.

 

[OneManGang]

As in every preseason, when hope springs eternal, I foretell that the Vols will be undefeated until they ain’t.

 

[OrangeCola]

I wish we were the 10, 11 or 12 seed. We would have won at least one playoff game

 

[vol94]

With a favorable schedule, I had us at 10-2. I thought we’d lose to UGA and one more, Bama or one on the road.

This yr is a different story though: 8-4

 

[DirtyDawg]

With a favorable schedule, I had us at 10-2. I thought we’d lose to UGA and one more, Bama or one on the road.

This yr is a different story though: 8-4

I think 8-4 is the floor honestly, but I could be mistaken. It sucks that the QB situation has gone as it has, you had presumably a highly talented guy coming back with much more experience, and then this BS happens! I’ve been impressed with CJH though, and that’s why I think 8-4 is the floor. He might look like Bobby Hill, but the man can coach and run a program!

Also, you get my Dawgs in Neyland, a very big advantage. We are also not sure of our QB situation, or at least I’m not. This is my most anticipated regular season game. This game will set the tone for the season for our programs. I’m not saying it’s a must win for either, but it will be a huge plus for whoever wins.

It’s always difficult to prognosticate how good a team will be until I see them play in at least one meaningful game, but I think your Vols will be much better than many think. I think this bc I think Heupel is a very good coach. That GA@TN game will show much for both of our programs. I almost wanna say good luck, but that would almost feel like an insult towards you guys! Of course I want my Dawgs to make a statement in Neyland. However, bc I like Heupel and bc I respect and enjoy many members here and their football knowledge, I can sincerely say that I wish you well this coming season and I’d like to see TN in the Playoff again.

 

[Rocky Top T]

I think 8-4 is the floor honestly, but I could be mistaken. It sucks that the QB situation has gone as it has, you had presumably a highly talented guy coming back with much more experience, and then this BS happens! I’ve been impressed with CJH though, and that’s why I think 8-4 is the floor. He might look like Bobby Hill, but the man can coach and run a program!

Also, you get my Dawgs in Neyland, a very big advantage. We are also not sure of our QB situation, or at least I’m not. This is my most anticipated regular season game. This game will set the tone for the season for our programs. I’m not saying it’s a must win for either, but it will be a huge plus for whoever wins.

It’s always difficult to prognosticate how good a team will be until I see them play in at least one meaningful game, but I think your Vols will be much better than many think. I think this bc I think Heupel is a very good coach. That GA@TN game will show much for both of our programs. I almost wanna say good luck, but that would almost feel like an insult towards you guys! Of course I want my Dawgs to make a statement in Neyland. However, bc I like Heupel and bc I respect and enjoy many members here and their football knowledge, I can sincerely say that I wish you well this coming season and I’d like to see TN in the Playoff again.

Georgia has beaten us worse in Neyland than in Athens since Heupel has been here, not much of an advantage

 

[DirtyDawg]

Georgia has beaten us worse in Neyland than in Athens since Heupel has been here, not much of an advantage

I understand your point, but those games IMO aren’t representative of how Neyland is an advantage. Those GA teams were riddled with talent and ridiculously good when things were clicking. TN and CJH were still in the early stages of turning things around and IMO very much overachieved.

100,000+ Vols screaming down onto the field is absolutely an advantage. I’m very worried how our inexperienced QB and our untested O-line will handle this! I’m telling you, this might be a huge advantage for you guys.

 

[IUGradVol]

Sure we overachieved. But man that ending to the season is still bitter…

 

[jackaro]

I fully back Heupel and staff but what the draft numbers tell me is that the staff needs to get better at recruiting and developing players. If not Tennessee will never rise to the level of OSU and Georgia.

 

[stolitonic]

I fully back Heupel and staff but what the draft numbers tell me is that the staff needs to get better at recruiting and developing players. If not Tennessee will never rise to the level of OSU and Georgia.

We are never gonna be able to compete (financially) with Ohio State and Texas.

Georgia, I dunno. I just don't see them having a huge NIL warchest in comparison with us. In many ways, the schools are comparable in terms of numbers of alumni, students, etc etc. At least they were, I haven't really looked recently Maybe they have decent money coming in right now, but a few more non NC years? Donations will either spike or dry up and who knows which way that will go.

Then and Bama are gonna be the most impacted in the long run as they aren't gonna be able to pay $35-$40 million for a team every year. Their advantage was the under the table days when a pretty small amount (by comparison) of tax free $ could put one hell of a team on the field.

Then there's the way I hope this will all go-people get tired of this silliness and NIL becomes kind of a joke where nobody will admit to spending very much. The Nico situation and antics by his crew left a pretty bad taste in people's mouths across the country. May take 10-15 years but I think NIL is not gonna be the long term boon players think it is. In the end, most people pay to watch "their school" at this level. The names on the backs of jerseys with a few exceptions are forgotten about pretty quickly by most. Eventually the guy making $75k a year is gonna wonder why he needs to be taking some money out of his pocket to pay a college QB who thinks he's Tom Brady but plays more like Nathan Peterman.

 

[Midas]

We are never gonna be able to compete (financially) with Ohio State and Texas.

Georgia, I dunno. I just don't see them having a huge NIL warchest in comparison with us. In many ways, the schools are comparable in terms of numbers of alumni, students, etc etc. At least they were, I haven't really looked recently Maybe they have decent money coming in right now, but a few more non NC years? Donations will either spike or dry up and who knows which way that will go.

Then and Bama are gonna be the most impacted in the long run as they aren't gonna be able to pay $35-$40 million for a team every year. Their advantage was the under the table days when a pretty small amount (by comparison) of tax free $ could put one hell of a team on the field.

Then there's the way I hope this will all go-people get tired of this silliness and NIL becomes kind of a joke where nobody will admit to spending very much. The Nico situation and antics by his crew left a pretty bad taste in people's mouths across the country. May take 10-15 years but I think NIL is not gonna be the long term boon players think it is. In the end, most people pay to watch "their school" at this level. The names on the backs of jerseys with a few exceptions are forgotten about pretty quickly by most. Eventually the guy making $75k a year is gonna wonder why he needs to be taking some money out of his pocket to pay a college QB who thinks he's Tom Brady but plays more like Nathan Peterman.

Georgia has a bunch of guys on Wall Street one of them being a Managing Director at Credit Suisse who flies in UGA students on a jet for recruiting. They got money.

 

[Tin Man]

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“The Daily Bacon” was a must read in the 70s, and I always leafed through looking for the cartoon before reading a story, even the one about crimson dye in the fountain the morning of the B*** game.

 

[MiramarVol]

We are never gonna be able to compete (financially) with Ohio State and Texas.

Georgia, I dunno. I just don't see them having a huge NIL warchest in comparison with us. In many ways, the schools are comparable in terms of numbers of alumni, students, etc etc. At least they were, I haven't really looked recently Maybe they have decent money coming in right now, but a few more non NC years? Donations will either spike or dry up and who knows which way that will go.

Then and Bama are gonna be the most impacted in the long run as they aren't gonna be able to pay $35-$40 million for a team every year. Their advantage was the under the table days when a pretty small amount (by comparison) of tax free $ could put one hell of a team on the field.

Then there's the way I hope this will all go-people get tired of this silliness and NIL becomes kind of a joke where nobody will admit to spending very much. The Nico situation and antics by his crew left a pretty bad taste in people's mouths across the country. May take 10-15 years but I think NIL is not gonna be the long term boon players think it is. In the end, most people pay to watch "their school" at this level. The names on the backs of jerseys with a few exceptions are forgotten about pretty quickly by most. Eventually the guy making $75k a year is gonna wonder why he needs to be taking some money out of his pocket to pay a college QB who thinks he's Tom Brady but plays more like Nathan Peterman.

AD just said we are as competitive as anyone. Baseball team is current NCAA. Baseball and Softball have been ranked #1 this season. Basketball was Elite 8. Womens team continues NCAA appearance streak and perolformed well under a 1st year HC. Danny also said in the last 4 years we have went from 140M to 280M in revenue.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I'm flumoxed Texas didn't put up a better fight against OSU with all their talent.

But, YES, totally agree...the 2024 version of the Vols did overachieve. I, myself, only had them at 7 to 8 wins before the season...as did most "pundits".

Texas was down 21-14 with first and goal from the 1 before Quinn Ewers happened with about 2 mins to go in the game....

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

I'm flumoxed Texas didn't put up a better fight against OSU with all their talent.

But, YES, totally agree...the 2024 version of the Vols did overachieve. I, myself, only had them at 7 to 8 wins before the season...as did most "pundits".

Texas had the ball at Ohio State’s 2 in a one score game with under 2 minutes to go.

Most pundits did not have us at 7 wins. We were ranked in the top 15 in the preseason. We may have slightly outperformed expectations, but we beat two P4 teams that did better than 6-6 and no one who won double digit games.

 

[vol94]

I think 8-4 is the floor honestly, but I could be mistaken. It sucks that the QB situation has gone as it has, you had presumably a highly talented guy coming back with much more experience, and then this BS happens! I’ve been impressed with CJH though, and that’s why I think 8-4 is the floor. He might look like Bobby Hill, but the man can coach and run a program!

Also, you get my Dawgs in Neyland, a very big advantage. We are also not sure of our QB situation, or at least I’m not. This is my most anticipated regular season game. This game will set the tone for the season for our programs. I’m not saying it’s a must win for either, but it will be a huge plus for whoever wins.

It’s always difficult to prognosticate how good a team will be until I see them play in at least one meaningful game, but I think your Vols will be much better than many think. I think this bc I think Heupel is a very good coach. That GA@TN game will show much for both of our programs. I almost wanna say good luck, but that would almost feel like an insult towards you guys! Of course I want my Dawgs to make a statement in Neyland. However, bc I like Heupel and bc I respect and enjoy many members here and their football knowledge, I can sincerely say that I wish you well this coming season and I’d like to see TN in the Playoff again.

I had us 9-3 with Nico, not much of a difference. I like Nico but never thought he would progress and be elite where he tieee over a game.

Fl, Bama and UGA= losses. We can play GA on Mars and GA wins -better talent with elite defense. And Kirby does a great job with in game adjustments, esp at the half.

 

[vegasvolfan]

I'm somewhat surprised none of you guys picked up on this.

We were all butthurt about the a$$ whoopin' Ohio State put on our beloved Vols to kick off their run through the playoffs to the title. Their only really significant opposition came from Texas.

OSU 42 Tennessee 17 - wasn't that close. Losing Sampson made UT one-dimensional

OSU 41 Oregon 21 - wasn't that close

OSU 28 Texas 14 - see draft #s

OSU 34 Notre Dame 23 - wasn't that close

NFL Draft OSU led all schools with 14 players drafted, Texas had 12, Oregon 10, Notre Dame, 6. Notice a pattern?

Tennessee was anchor man of the schools OSU played in the playoffs with only 4.

Of the SEC schools Tennessee played:

Georgia came in second over all with 13 picks & beat the Vols 31-17. Won SEC, lost in the playoffs to ND due to Beck getting injured in the SECG which made them essentially one-dimensional. An NC game between the Dawgs with Carson Beck and OSU would have been one for the ages with UGA slightly more likely to win due to NC experience.

2024 SEC season for the Vols:

Tennessee beat Alabama and Florida: each with 7 picks

Lost to Arkansas with 2 picks: blind hog theorem

Beat Kentucky (2), Oklahoma (2), Vandy (1), MSU (0) the pattern holds.

O/A the SEC had 79 picks, the BiG 71. There was a steep drop between OSU and Oregon and the rest of the conference.

As Ol' Nappy said, "God is on the side of the big battalions."

That’s great. Now let’s work on getting the players they are getting with apparently the second highest NIL per the recent post on here and destroy people. The difference in outcome is clearly recruiting. Not coaching. Not money. Granted our SoS has been favorable as well, but I still think with equal recruiting we compete for the NC.

 

[StarRaider]

“The Daily Bacon” was a must read in the 70s, and I always leafed through looking for the cartoon before reading a story, even the one about crimson dye in the fountain the morning of the B*** game.

If any one has the Kerns Bread Truck cartoon from TDB please share, TIA

 

[DirtyDawg]

I had us 9-3 with Nico, not much of a difference. I like Nico but never thought he would progress and be elite where he tieee over a game.

Fl, Bama and UGA= losses. We can play GA on Mars and GA wins -better talent with elite defense. And Kirby does a great job with in game adjustments, esp at the half.

At the risk of sounding like an arrogant a- hole I will admit that for the most part I agree. I’m enjoying something that not many years ago I thought impossible. UGA football is for the moment at a level that everyone dreams of being at. Kirby is 100% the reason, and yes he is a South Georgia backwoods, bowl cut, SOB. But the man can coach and run a football program! I’m going to do my best to enjoy this while it lasts!!!

Some of you older tn fans understand that the feeling I’ve had about GA football these last many years is absolutely a fickle feeling. Yes, I want my Dawgs to dominate every year, and I’ll be excited and pulling for them until my last year. But I’m happy and very content with what I’ve enjoyed!!! I would’ve been happy with one championship. My point is, don’t lose faith. Things change quickly, especially nowadays.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I'm somewhat surprised none of you guys picked up on this.

We were all butthurt about the a$$ whoopin' Ohio State put on our beloved Vols to kick off their run through the playoffs to the title. Their only really significant opposition came from Texas.

OSU 42 Tennessee 17 - wasn't that close. Losing Sampson made UT one-dimensional

OSU 41 Oregon 21 - wasn't that close

OSU 28 Texas 14 - see draft #s

OSU 34 Notre Dame 23 - wasn't that close

NFL Draft OSU led all schools with 14 players drafted, Texas had 12, Oregon 10, Notre Dame, 6. Notice a pattern?

Tennessee was anchor man of the schools OSU played in the playoffs with only 4.

Of the SEC schools Tennessee played:

Georgia came in second over all with 13 picks & beat the Vols 31-17. Won SEC, lost in the playoffs to ND due to Beck getting injured in the SECG which made them essentially one-dimensional. An NC game between the Dawgs with Carson Beck and OSU would have been one for the ages with UGA slightly more likely to win due to NC experience.

2024 SEC season for the Vols:

Tennessee beat Alabama and Florida: each with 7 picks

Lost to Arkansas with 2 picks: blind hog theorem

Beat Kentucky (2), Oklahoma (2), Vandy (1), MSU (0) the pattern holds.

O/A the SEC had 79 picks, the BiG 71. There was a steep drop between OSU and Oregon and the rest of the conference.

As Ol' Nappy said, "God is on the side of the big battalions."

We also

Didn't have any of our best offensive weapons.

 

[OffTackleVol]

“The Daily Bacon” was a must read in the 70s, and I always leafed through looking for the cartoon before reading a story, even the one about crimson dye in the fountain the morning of the B*** game.

Yea, Dan Batey was the cartoonist. I bought his cartoons and essays book "Return of the Alumni" many, many years ago. I get it out and re-read it a couple times a year. Weren't his Beacon cartoons titled "Barney and Earl's Guide to Slide Through College?"