Trade Wars and Tariffs

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FLVOL_79 said:
Why won't we be fine? What happens if we keep adding debt? Prices go up? Already happening. Economy might tank? Ah f$ck it that had to happen every few years anyway right? Interrat rates go up? Check.
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There will be a crash making 1929 look like a bump, we cannot keep manufacturing money out of thin air to support our spending.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
you failed to explain why inflation, gov't regulations and required taxes, etc, etc should not be shown to consumers in how these things add to what consumers pay. And I still do not know that Amazon is going to be honest with the numbers they post.
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We can race to see who can find verifiable information on a product's pricing. I'll calculate the tax with tariffs included and you calculate your goolosh of inflation related price increases.

I'll bet two million VN bucks I get my information faster and more accurately than you will.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Sales tax is a tax directly paid by the consumer, tariffs are a tax (when passed on by the importer) directly paid by the consumer.

Everything else you listed is not.

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are you telling me businesses do not pass on the cost of gov't required taxes, wages, regulations etc to the consumer by increasing the prices of goods consumers pay whereby consumers are directly paying for these gov't required taxes/regulations?
 
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hog88 said:
There will be a crash making 1929 look like a bump, we cannot keep manufacturing money out of thin air to support our spending.
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Market needs a good reset so no biggie, just don't rely on your investments for anything right now..

But seriously..unless you increase revenue and reduce spending MASSIVELY, the debt will never be successfully tackled. Until that happens everything's a smokeshow.
 
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Because investors know that the Pam Bondi investigation is coming. Glad the DOJ is no longer politicized.

 
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Anybody seen @kiddiedoc lurking on this thread. He assured me the USA would win this trade war because of George Washington and Eisenhower or something like that.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Man, jmac sure is pissy about Amazon showing the President's work for him.
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I am saying Amazon quit playing politics and be honest and show how ALL gov't regulations and taxes (along with inflation the gov't causes) be shown in how they ALL add to the prices consumers pay...


.....this may have backfired for amazon

 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Tariffs are easily quantified and tracked. Plain and simple. Sorry you wasted your time asking all these questions.
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with the way the current admin is running, it isn't.

145% tariffs, until they aren't, but wait they are, but now its 85%, or we aren't doing it again.

it won't be too bad for a lot of what amazon schleps, if its sole sourced, but as items get more complex and you deal with more and more supply lines it gets impossible to really track.

and I am starting to see that various companies "handle" various parts of the tariffs differently. typically most of the big guys pick up some part of the tariffs in their overhead, they just differ on which part. some include the cost of the raw material tariff, others the basic item, or the refined good, or the final product. but never all of them. most can't tell the costumer what the cost is going to be in a month, because they don't know how much its going to cost them in a month.

long term planning has been completely killed off by Trump.
 
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evillawyer said:


Anybody seen @kiddiedoc lurking on this thread. He assured me the USA would win this trade war because of George Washington and Eisenhower or something like that.
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Ryosei Akazawa is Japan's trade negotiator, pushing for U.S. tariff cuts, especially on autos. No direct evidence confirms he demanded complete tariff removal for the April 30 talks. He stated Japan won't sacrifice agriculture for autos, aligning with PM Ishiba, but reports suggest possible soybean/rice concessions. The claim of demanding full tariff elimination is unverified.

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edit--if US drops all its tarriffs against Japan and Japan drop all of its tarriffs on US then it's a win win.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
I am saying Amazon quit playing politics and be honest and show how ALL gov't regulations and taxes (along with inflation the gov't causes) be shown in how they ALL add to the prices consumers pay...


.....this may have backfired for amazon

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A 5 point drop ain't **** in 2025. Lol.
 
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evillawyer said:
Amazon will display how much of the price of an item is due to Trump's tariffs. And of course the administration doesn't like that.

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I'm all for this. I'm also against federal tax withholdings. I'd instead like for everyone to have to pay a lump sum at every tax season so we all get a really good feel for how much the Fed actually takes from us. I'm a huge fan of every one of us getting outraged at the cost of gov't.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Market needs a good reset so no biggie, just don't rely on your investments for anything right now..

But seriously..unless you increase revenue and reduce spending MASSIVELY, the debt will never be successfully tackled. Until that happens everything's a smokeshow.
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I'm not talking about the short term, I'm talking 40-50+ years down the road. And yes I know you DGAF about that since you don't have offspring but one day in the not to distant future it will all come tumbling down.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
not just a drop in stock but the number of people said they will quit buying from Amazon because of Amazon playing politics
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Transparency isn't "playing politics." They have every right to inform their customers about the cost of these unnecessary and asinine tariffs.
Stop whining and blaming everyone else, Trump did this, he owns it.
 
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utvolpj said:
You're going to need a lot more of that when the true impact hits in May.
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people can start buying 'made in USA' or quit complaining about loss of manufacturing jobs, reduction in wages and that sucking sound coming from Mexico and China
 
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An Amazon spokesperson says the e-commerce giant was never considering adding import fees on all purchases to show the cost of President Donald Trump’s new tariffs, dismissing a report in Punchbowl News on Tuesday morning that prompted an attack from the White House.
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“The team that runs our ultra-low-cost Amazon Haul store has considered listing import charges on certain products,” the spokesperson said. “This was never a consideration for the main Amazon site and nothing has been implemented on any Amazon properties.”
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