Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Christian Lowe]

The offensive coordinator at UCLA is Sal Sunseri’s son?? We have to live in a simulation lmfao you can’t make that up

 

[DD4ME]

The offensive coordinator at UCLA is Sal Sunseri’s son?? We have to live in a simulation lmfao you can’t make that up

You could not write a Netflix movie goofier on this situation.

 

[DD4ME]

 

[you]

I don't want to sound like i'm defending Nico because I'm not. He's a 20 year old man.

However, I do wonder if the shadiness of NIL deals gone wrong shaped the attitude of his camp. It sounds like they have trust issues, and we've all heard of unfullfilled NIL promises. That doesn't seem at all what happened to him, but could have contributed to their attitude towards the whole process.

 

[Christian Lowe]

I don't want to sound like i'm defending Nico because I'm not. He's a 20 year old man.

However, I do wonder if the shadiness of NIL deals gone wrong shaped the attitude of his camp. It sounds like they have trust issues, and we've all heard of unfullfilled NIL promises. That doesn't seem at all what happened to him, but could have contributed to their attitude towards the whole process.

Well most sources say they refused to fulfill their obligations to Spyre which resulted in less pay. Since the father is his agent and woefully unqualified to be so, they likely feel slighted by that since he probably had no idea what he was signing.

 

[jave36]

I don't want to sound like i'm defending Nico because I'm not. He's a 20 year old man.

However, I do wonder if the shadiness of NIL deals gone wrong shaped the attitude of his camp. It sounds like they have trust issues, and we've all heard of unfullfilled NIL promises. That doesn't seem at all what happened to him, but could have contributed to their attitude towards the whole process.

They never complained about not getting paid, so I doubt it could have shaped their attitude.

 

[hotcypress]

I don't think we want - right?

he's going to be very very expensive, so I'm guessing no.

 

[you]

Well most sources say they refused to fulfill their obligations to Spyre which resulted in less pay. Since the father is his agent and woefully unqualified to be so, they likely feel slighted by that since he probably had no idea what he was signing.

yeah, i'm thinking that had something to do with it.

I mean it seems pretty easy to me to show up to do your marketing obligations. It's not hard work. But they seemed bitter over it, and not wanting to go the extra mile to impress anyone.

 

[jave36]

The third bullet - I thought that was already a rule? It costed us field position per the ref in the ‘23 Bama game because a frontline return team player made some movement with his arms.

He waved his arm over his head, which was already a rule.

The T signal is different, though I've never seen anyone make a T signal and don't even know what that means.

 

[you]

They never complained about not getting paid, so I doubt it could have shaped their attitude.

not their experices specifically, but just hearing of others not getting paid could have made them the way they are. Thinking the same thing might happen to them, even though it didn't

 

[rikberry31]

That narrative is used in recruiting to say we don't get players NFL ready, which makes it harder to get difference makers.

Well somebody needs to tell those boys in the NFL that they are not ready.

 

[Christian Lowe]

yeah, i'm thinking that had something to do with it.

I mean it seems pretty easy to me to show up to do your marketing obligations. It's not hard work. But they seemed bitter over it, and not wanting to go the extra mile to impress anyone.

You’d think with the lineage of “generally good dude” QB’s we have, Manning, Dobbs, Hooker… someone would have tried to steer him to at least try to LOOK like he cared about any of it. But who knows, maybe they did and Big Nic cussed them out too lol

 

[JCVol00]

It’s almost as if rolling into spring practice with only 6 scholarship WR’s, with their combined receiving yards being 444, and replacing 4/5 starting OL is a bad idea

 

[DD4ME]

This is when all kinds of chit starts flying. Good riddance

 

[VolGee4]

yeah, i'm thinking that had something to do with it.

I mean it seems pretty easy to me to show up to do your marketing obligations. It's not hard work. But they seemed bitter over it, and not wanting to go the extra mile to impress anyone.

It’s sad thinking because one of these shows made a great point. Josh Dobbs can do anything he wants in Knoxville, and he didn’t even win at a high level. But he endeared himself to the fans, and they reward him. If you think big picture, making appearances not only makes you money, but it gets you so much good will for the future. Doors open when you treat people well. It’s pretty simple.

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

UCLA's schedule

vs Utah
at UNLV
vs New Mexico
at Northwestern
vs Penn State
at Michigan State
vs Maryland
at Indiana
vs Nebraska
at Ohio State
vs Washington
at USC

Probably gonna lose at least 4-6 games

You’re giving them a lot of credit. They will be 10+ point dogs against Utah. They will be dogs against both MSU and Northwestern. Their only games I could see them being favored in is Maryland, Washington and New Mexico.

This season for them will be akin to Tony Elliott’s first season at UVA. First time HC with a first time OC and zero talent.

 

[DD4ME]

I don't want to sound like i'm defending Nico because I'm not. He's a 20 year old man.

However, I do wonder if the shadiness of NIL deals gone wrong shaped the attitude of his camp. It sounds like they have trust issues, and we've all heard of unfullfilled NIL promises. That doesn't seem at all what happened to him, but could have contributed to their attitude towards the whole process.

Not buying it. Self serving narcissistic ego maniac comes to mind though. Not Nico, but his dad.

 

[jave36]

not their experices specifically, but just hearing of others not getting paid could have made them the way they are. Thinking the same thing might happen to them, even though it didn't

Eh, seems like a stretch. If someone has always paid you on time in full, you don't leave them because you heard stories of other people not getting paid.

 

[Christian Lowe]

You’re giving them a lot of credit. They will be 10+ point dogs against Utah. They will be dogs against both MSU and Northwestern. Their only games I could see them being favored in is Maryland, Washington and New Mexico.

This season for them will be akin to Tony Elliott’s first season at UVA. First time HC with a first time OC and zero talent.

It’s his second year, but last year didn’t instill much confidence

 

[TechnoVol]

We have playmakers. We have them every year even if they haven't been given a shot yet.

That's potentially the problem. Established QBs don't have anything to base the quality of the playmakers on the roster. We don't have any WRs returning that have proven anything on the field, much less being a significant playmaker. To get a above average QB in this tight window, we may have to also invest in a top WR from the portal first and then get the QB on board.

 

[Volnut]

With all that money, they couldn't hire American Van Lines to move him?

 

[Christian Lowe]

With all that money, they couldn't hire American Van Lines to move him?

Cali cost of living gonna bite em in the ass. Gotta start saving

 

[drvenner]

That’s what Meyer is saying here, lose to Florida because Quarterback that won’t look great after the season. @Ten_Titans I agree

Losing to Florida never looks great

 

[Brillovol]

With all that money, they couldn't hire American Van Lines to move him?

Well they haven’t shown to be the wisest with money, so I’m not surprised.

 

[Weezer]

That's potentially the problem. Established QBs don't have anything to base the quality of the playmakers on the roster. We don't have any WRs returning that have proven anything on the field, much less being a significant playmaker. To get a above average QB in this tight window, we may have to also invest in a top WR from the portal first and then get the QB on board.

Both the WRs and OL are unproven. Doesn't mean they're bad, but certainly, they have yet to show how good or bad they will be. We've yet to see if one of the RBs will step up and be a dynamic playmaker like Sampson. So yeah, there are a lot of questions for this offense that could chase a potential portal QB away. But I do believe a good QB has a lot of potential to mold on this team. It's just whether or not potential is reached.