President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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#20,703
utvolpj said:
Feds don't control elections. If they want to them do it lawfully

How sure this real id change anything in the 13 states you're concerned about?
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At the moment you are right. The feds don't controll the elections. Dems are aways crying about ID's because without them it makes for less secure elections and easier to cheat. Why are you afraid of a secure election? Afraid you might lose?
 
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dovervolz said:
At the moment you are right. The feds don't controll the elections. Dems are aways crying about ID's because without them it makes for less secure elections and easier to cheat. Why are you afraid of a secure election? Afraid you might lose?
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You all keep using the argument but have yet to explain how this makes elections secure

I lose almost every election. So do you but you just don't realize it
 
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#20,705
utvolpj said:
You all keep using the argument but have yet to explain how this makes elections secure

I lose almost every election. So do you but you just don't realize it
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I do realize we lose every election. The only thing that wins is money not the best person. That's not claim though. Will REAL ID's work? Who knows but it's worth a shot at a better election. We haven't had a fair one in decades.
 
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dovervolz said:
I do realize we lose every election. The only thing that wins is money not the best person. That's not claim though. Will REAL ID's work? Who knows but it's worth a shot at a better election. We haven't had a fair one in decades.
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so the Obama strategy with ACA? We have to do SOMETHING, so lets try anything to see if it sticks to the wall.
 
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dovervolz said:
I do realize we lose every election. The only thing that wins is money not the best person. That's not claim though. Will REAL ID's work? Who knows but it's worth a shot at a better election. We haven't had a fair one in decades.
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Work at what? What does it do differently than a current state id? How did this make it "fair"?
 
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#20,708
dovervolz said:
I do realize we lose every election. The only thing that wins is money not the best person. That's not claim though. Will REAL ID's work? Who knows but it's worth a shot at a better election. We haven't had a fair one in decades.
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Non citizens can get a real ID.

dds.georgia.gov

Georgia REAL ID

REAL ID Documents you may be required to bring when visiting a Customer Service Center.
dds.georgia.gov dds.georgia.gov
 
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hog88 said:
I still haven't figured out how these guys equate the real ID to more secure elections.
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I think it’s suppose to be a better ID that’s more difficult to forge. Not sure if that translates to more secure elections or not.
 
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#20,723
hog88 said:
I still haven't figured out how these guys equate the real ID to more secure elections.
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Generally speaking, it has a photo ID. Over 50% of our states do not require a photo ID of any sort to vote. If states were to gravitate to this, then we would have more secure elections.
 
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CobbVol said:
Generally speaking, it has a photo ID. Over 50% of our states do not require a photo ID of any sort to vote. If states were to gravitate to this, then we would have more secure elections.
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So how does this id change any of those state laws?

If photo IDs are currently available then how does this put them in people's hands who don't want one?
 
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