2025 Transfer Portal Thread

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Smokey 77 said:
How much total money would it take to get Rice, Freeman, and Ament to sign with Tennessee? 6M or more?
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I think Ament is being offered 3 mil, Rice is being offered in the neighborhood of 1.5 mil...so the question is can Freeman be had for 1.5 mil? I think it can happen, but I think that would likely be a discount for each of those guys. The odds of getting 3 guys to take a discount (really 4 with Gillespie), is pretty low, I'd think.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
I’m glad we’re fine paying Ament 3 mil but not Rice lmaooo

Make that make sense.
- 1 year vs 3.
- 3mil for one year or you wasted 3mil on freshman that needs more development
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In both cases, it's 3 million for next year. You don't think these are career NIL amounts, do you? You'll be negotiating with any of these guys again next year.
 
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cncchris33 said:
In both cases, it's 3 million for next year. You don't think these are career NIL amounts, do you? You'll be negotiating with any of these guys again next year.
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You’re gonna be doing the same thing next year anyways if you don’t land him. Someone else will want the same or more.

You have a proven d1 transfer. Pay him.

The market will go up and up till someone jumps in and says enough of this ****. You could be paying more for less talent next season.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
You’re gonna be doing the same thing next year anyways if you don’t land him. Someone else will want the same or more.

The market goes up and up till someone jumps in and says enough of this ****.
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Right, but that's why your argument doesn't make sense to try and advocate for Rice based on the notion that he potentially has 3 years of eligibility. 3 mil for Ament or Rice only secures either guy for one year, so any future eligibility shouldn't even really be a consideration.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Right, but that's why your argument doesn't make sense to try and advocate for Rice based on the notion that he potentially has 3 years of eligibility. 3 mil for Ament or Rice only secures either guy for one year, so any future eligibility shouldn't even really be a consideration.
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He's right we'd just have to re-recruit Ament after the season is over.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Right, but that's why your argument doesn't make sense to try and advocate for Rice based on the notion that he potentially has 3 years of eligibility. 3 mil for Ament or Rice only secures either guy for one year, so any future eligibility shouldn't even really be a consideration.
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I certainly think there are advantages to having a guy already on your roster when it comes to those negotiations. It may not be huge, but it's non-zero.
 
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I’d take Gainey & ZZ back and let Rice take his 3 million.

I’ve not seen anything from Rice that screams a generational type player.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
I’d take Gainey & ZZ back and let Rice take his 3 million.

I’ve not seen anything from Rice that screams a generational type player.
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Then you potentially lose Gillespie later since kids get their feelings hurt easily, and that’s not worth it.

Combo of Rice/Gillespie >>> ZZ/Gainey

I’d obviously take ZZ over all them, if I had just one choice.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
You’re gonna be doing the same thing next year anyways if you don’t land him. Someone else will want the same or more.

You have a proven d1 transfer. Pay him.

The market will go up and up till someone jumps in and says enough of this ****. You could be paying more for less talent next season.
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It's the same thing in NBA, older players like Knecht who are probably at that time better than some younger players drafted before him.

You sometimes pay a premium for young untapped potential that could blossom into a superstar. Rice is a solid player but it's not likely he'll be Knecht or Lanier next year. Aments potential if harnessed could make him a superstar. It's certainly riskier but talent and potential win out in a lot of case.
 
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Chaz-Vol said:
It's the same thing in NBA, older players like Knecht who are probably at that time better than some younger players drafted before him.

You sometimes pay a premium for young untapped potential that could blossom into a superstar. Rice is a solid player but it's not likely he'll be Knecht or Lanier next year. Aments potential if harnessed could make him a superstar. It's certainly riskier but talent and potential win out in a lot of case.
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Neither are worth 3mil, but if I’m paying one of them 3mil, then it’s the proven player in Rice.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I certainly think there are advantages to having a guy already on your roster when it comes to those negotiations. It may not be huge, but it's non-zero.
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I don't disagree. I'm just saying Trippie's implication is that 3 million for Rice is exponentially more valuable than 3 million for Ament solely because he has 3 years of eligibility. I think it's a consideration, but one far down the list behind talent and potential impact. This is a year-to-year deal now. The idea that Rice can come back is worthwhile (so can Ament, technically...he has 5 years), but the initial $3 mil only impacts 2025-26. If it was a $3 mil contract over 3 years vs $3 mil for 1 year of Ament, then I think his argument makes more sense, but that isn't the reality of the situation.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think Ament is being offered 3 mil, Rice is being offered in the neighborhood of 1.5 mil...so the question is can Freeman be had for 1.5 mil? I think it can happen, but I think that would likely be a discount for each of those guys. The odds of getting 3 guys to take a discount (really 4 with Gillespie), is pretty low, I'd think.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. Instead of asking 3 guys to take a discount, I would take two of them and not offer a discount. For me, that would be Rice and Freeman because they are more developed and likely will be here more than 1 season.
 
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Stoked said:
Uhh yes, especially since UT wants to charge an extra 10% "talent fee." We're very comfortable spending "other peoples' money".
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Yeah, that's not the point, brotatochip.

You have absolutely zero knowledge outside of some "educated hearsay" about what players are asking for and what our total NIL budget is for the basketball program. That's why it's funny to me when the local mouth breathers say sh*t like "yeah why not just give him another $400k." It's really easy to throw money around when it's not yours and you have no idea what the broader picture looks like.
 
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ThatVolGuy said:
Yeah, that's not the point, brotatochip.

You have absolutely zero knowledge outside of some "educated hearsay" about what players are asking for and what our total NIL budget is for the basketball program. That's why it's funny to me when the local mouth breathers say sh*t like "yeah why not just give him another $400k." It's really easy to throw money around when it's not yours and you have no idea what the broader picture looks like.
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Technically, some of it is ours ;)
 
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ThatVolGuy said:
If that makes you feel like a shareholder with some inside knowledge, I'm happy for you. Until you show me the spreadsheet, you're just a peon grasping at straws like the rest of us.
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I mean, yeah I definitely like a shareholder! I’m glad you’re happy for me.
 
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