Tourism to the US is cratering

[evillawyer]

"Eff them Mainers. They voted for the ho."



Just wanna make sure I'm capturing the general sentiment of the thread.

 

[Vol8188]

"Eff them Mainers. They voted for the ho."



Just wanna make sure I'm capturing the general sentiment of the thread.

If this were a state with 20% of their gdp coming from coal, would you be this upset by a 5.1% reduction?

According to your own article, the projected decrease in tourism is only 5.1%.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Chump change, right?

Economic crisis in the making: Damning report says U.S. tourism faces $64 billion blow as Trump administration’s trade wars drive away foreign visitors and cut spending

A recent Tourism Economics report warns that the US tourism sector is at risk of losing up to $64 billion this year due to the Trump administration's trade wars, stricter immigration regulations, and declining international sentiment towards America. The situation reflects a significant downturn...

m.economictimes.com

Or Bull **** prediction with scary headlines to drive clicks.

I prefer to deal in actual numbers, and forecasts from people actually in the industry. Interesting that they are not as doomsday as you on this matter.

True story, when the laws changed on advertising for cigarettes, I had a family member in advertising production. Actually he’s still in the business. Cigarettes were his number 1 industry and customer. He aggressively went after new businesses (alcohol mostly at first then pharmaceutical) he had his business set up before the law took affect. Actually grew the business. International business may be down but as most times they are in a sell out situation, that business will be replaced with another sector and those in the field won’t feel it.

But what do I know. I’ve only built and sold businesses with family members that are in every imaginable business. Your consumer base ebbs and flows. We in business are used to it. We’re not scared by it and we don’t care about your BS predictions. We have a habit of making our own, which are usually way more accurate

 

[PEPPERJAX]

This is basically a problem for new York, California, and Florida. Nobody else feels anything. And the current dip represents less than .01% of their projected revenue

You forgot about Pigeon Forge you insensitive douche cannon.

 

[utvolpj]

You forgot about Pigeon Forge you insensitive douche cannon.

It's likely a hit of tens of millions to the smoky mtns

 

[hndog609]

I have to wonder about your business acumen if you question the entire model of the tourism and hospitality industry.

That isn't what I questioned. I didn't say (or even allude) that there's no such thing as international tourism. I was wondering about a business model that would make or break relying on people crossing oceans.

I guess Hawaii is in a pretty unique position for that to be the case or at least be more sensitive to the issue.

 

[EasternVol]

lol. You’ve been over the edge for a while now. Who gives a f*** about international tourism? What business is hanging their hat on that?

Not a one. Those 65 million international tourists that visit, or did visit, the US each year all sleep under bridges, steal their food, travel around the country in boxcars, wash their clothes in rivers, well you get the idea. Yeah we get nothing from them at all.

 

[EasternVol]

And I think a foreigner that had plans to visit the US for a vacation, but won’t now because Trump is president is a poon.

Or doesn't want to risk the small but larger than before possibility that they'll end up in detention because some ICE Hitler Youth fanboy's on a power trip.

 

[just bob]

Or doesn't want to risk the small but larger than before possibility that they'll end up in detention because some ICE Hitler Youth fanboy's on a power trip.

Foreign tourists are fearing something that has never happened? That must be it.

 

[EasternVol]

Foreign tourists are fearing something that has never happened? That must be it.

You don't keep up much.

 

[hndog609]

International visitors spent nearly $213.1 billion on U.S. travel and tourism-related goods and services year last year (January through December 2023), an increase of nearly 29 percent when compared to 2022; international visitors injected, on average, nearly $584 million a day into the U.S. economy during 2023.

That's higher than the gdp of several of your goober states.

I didn't so much as imply there is no such thing as money coming into the country from international sources. I was questioning how many individual businesses in the US are actually in fear of collapse because fewer people aren't crossing oceans* to get here.

*I suppose if you are a dedicated travel agency primarily dealing with selling packages to Europeans there'd be some exposure.

 

[just bob]

You don't keep up much.

Enlighten me.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Or doesn't want to risk the small but larger than before possibility that they'll end up in detention because some ICE Hitler Youth fanboy's on a power trip.

This has happened to German tourists just minding their own business?

Or just those crossing Rio Grande without going through a port of entry? Not, be fair to you, that I have heard of any significant numbers of Germans swimming across the Rio Grande.

 

[just bob]

This has happened to German tourists just minding their own business?

Or just those crossing Rio Grande without going through a port of entry? Not, be fair to you, that I have heard of any significant numbers of Germans swimming across the Rio Grande.

He's trying to make actual tourists and illegal aliens equal and it's adorable.

 

[Go aeiou]

You forgot about Pigeon Forge you insensitive douche cannon.

You forgot Trashville fool.

 

[hog88]

And nobody is mentioning the economic conditions in the countries these visitors would be coming from. People tend not to travel much when they’re broke or worried about their finances.

 

[GroverCleveland]

And nobody is mentioning the economic conditions in the countries these visitors would be coming from. People tend not to travel much when they’re broke or worried about their finances.

Hear! Hear!

 

[MemphisVol77]

And nobody is mentioning the economic conditions in the countries these visitors would be coming from. People tend not to travel much when they’re broke or worried about their finances.

They'd make memes mocking their countries' travel advisories if they wouldn't get arrested for it.

 

[Vol8188]

And nobody is mentioning the economic conditions in the countries these visitors would be coming from. People tend not to travel much when they’re broke or worried about their finances.

And the greater our relative advantage over those economies, the less tourism we will see in general. Because people want to go places where their currency goes further.

It’s not doom and gloom like EV is claiming

 

[C-south]

They'd make memes mocking their countries' travel advisories if they wouldn't get arrested for it.

You gotta tread carefully when the call to prayer starts ringing out….in the UK.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You forgot about Pigeon Forge you insensitive douche cannon.

I’m there all the time. Very little international traffic if any

 

[GroverCleveland]

I’m there all the time. Very little international traffic if any

You mean Memphis isn't considered International?

 

[EasternVol]

This has happened to German tourists just minding their own business?

Or just those crossing Rio Grande without going through a port of entry? Not, be fair to you, that I have heard of any significant numbers of Germans swimming across the Rio Grande.

The Hitler Youth fanboys in question would be those working for ICE. I guess they're the ones that didn't get hired on by DC area sheriff's departments, which seem to be their preferred employers.

 

[EasternVol]

He's trying to make actual tourists and illegal aliens equal and it's adorable.

Wrong. You failed again. It must be tough to go through life being such a dumbass.

 

[C-south]

I’m there all the time. Very little international traffic if any

We went for a few days during spring break. It didn’t look like there was a lack of people anywhere.