Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#150,852
BleedorangeinGA said:
I do feel bad for Nico. Most kids look to their parents for guidance and trust their advice. Nico’s father simply sabotaged his career due to ignorance and greed. Nico has to be thinking why the hell did I listen to him.

The saying it’s never as good or as bad as it seems. Well this is as bad as it seems for Nico, for his career and relationship with his family.
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His career may not be sabotaged. Maybe he thrives in a different system.
 
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BleedorangeinGA said:
I do feel bad for Nico. Most kids look to their parents for guidance and trust their advice. Nico’s father simply sabotaged his career due to ignorance and greed. Nico has to be thinking why the hell did I listen to him.

The saying it’s never as good or as bad as it seems. Well this is as bad as it seems for Nico, for his career and relationship with his family.
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Nico’s father is definitely at fault, but I don’t feel bad for a guy making $2.4M. If you want to get paid like a pro, then you’ll get treated like a pro.
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
AND......

CAN WE STOP BASING OUR FEELINGS OFF THE RECRUITING SERVICES STAR RANKINGS AND JUST TRUST OUR COACHES TO BRING IN WHO WE NEED.
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This should be an absolute wake up call to star gazers. You see why Heupel is so selective with his players? You see why their mentality means so much to him? You see why he's always talking about "team first" guys? Wake up dorks. This isn't CFB 25 where a five star is automatically an 80 overall and a 3 star is a 70 overall. That's not how football works. Some players get overlooked, some players get overrated. But we have a coach that knows what matters most: are you going to make my team better? If so, sign on the dotted line and get to work
 
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Aesius said:
So to recap what we’ve done for CFB since 2017:

-Showed other schools you can raise enough hell to prevent terrible hires being trotted out

-Sued the NCAA and won, further neutering their influence and tyranny over the sport

-Refused to be held hostage by an entitled player in the NIL space and held our ground, creating powerful precedent in an otherwise lawless and chaotic landscape

Everyone else… you’re welcome.
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#Everythingschool
 
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NMVol said:
What an opportunity the coming season would have been. Not having confidence in his supporting cast to pull together and bring the fight says alot especially where last season was a collective effort.
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I wonder if the staff's inability to land high end talent at OL and WR were what leady Nico to go with his Dad/Agent's decisions. Our RB room is good (nobody elite), the OL group is a big unknown with new guys, a True Fr. at RT and a guy at LT that flàshed talent but was also out of shape, hurt and played lazy at times.

Add an average and thin WR group with no sure-fire outside playmaker, TE took a hit with Kitselman. DL has less depth, DB lost our best CB to injury and Harrison left. I thinkbl Nico knows that next season will be tough, might cause him to come back his Senior year for draft status and either wanted big money or out.

That is why I always thought the the redshift and then play 2 years then NFL Draft plan was a little silly and arrogant. The family just assumed that Nico would play at a top NFL Draft pick level as a Sophomore and a Junior and would also attract EVERYONE in his and the class after to want to play with him.....only a few did. He had a solid Sophomore season and could have been very good as a Junior but their family's plan left no room for error. No room for mediocre seasons, no injuries, no room for patience of rosters having to be built, added to or developed in the Unlimited Portal & NIL era.

The family have put the last several years of pressure on this being Nico's "get rich" year and are making short-sighted decisions to get there when he is so close to mastering Heupel's system and getting the most out of his weapons. We might be a little thin on WR weapons now but have the Spring Portal window and time to develop guys. One of the worst 2025 scenarios is Nico only plays OK again due to his/WR/OL/TE play and then hits the portal or comes back to a loaded team next year but that doesn't fit "the plan".
 
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vol4eva said:
Nico’s father is definitely at fault, but I don’t feel bad for a guy making $2.4M. If you want to get paid like a pro, then you’ll get treated like a pro.
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RUMOR; Nico’s family spent the money and he was in major tax trouble.

Again a rumor but it’s being put out there
 
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gainesvol82 said:
I wonder if the staff's inability to land high end talent at OL and WR were what leady Nico to go with his Dad/Agent's decisions. Our RB room is good (nobody elite), the OL group is a big unknown with new guys, a True Fr. at RT and a guy at LT that flàshed talent but was also out of shape, hurt and played lazy at times.

Add an average and thin WR group with no sure-fire outside playmaker, TE took a hit with Kitselman. DL has less depth, DB lost our best CB to injury and Harrison left. I thinkbl Nico knows that next season will be tough, might cause him to come back his Senior year for draft status and either wanted big money or out.

That is why I always thought the the redshift and then play 2 years then NFL Draft plan was a little silly and arrogant. The family just assumed that Nico would play at a top NFL Draft pick level as a Sophomore and a Junior and would also attract EVERYONE in his and the class after to want to play with him.....only a few did. He had a solid Sophomore season and could have been very good as a Junior but their family's plan left no room for error. No room for mediocre seasons, no injuries, no room for patience of rosters having to be built, added to or developed in the Unlimited Portal & NIL era.

The family have put the last several years of pressure on this being Nico's "get rich" year and are making short-sighted decisions to get there when he is so close to mastering Heupel's system and getting the most out of his weapons. We might be a little thin on WR weapons now but have the Spring Portal window and time to develop guys. One of the worst 2025 scenarios is Nico only plays OK again due to his/WR/OL/TE play and then hits the portal or comes back to a loaded team next year but that doesn't fit "the plan".
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Lots to consider there. We'll never really know. That's why character matters.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
I wonder if the staff's inability to land high end talent at OL and WR were what leady Nico to go with his Dad/Agent's decisions. Our RB room is good (nobody elite), the OL group is a big unknown with new guys, a True Fr. at RT and a guy at LT that flàshed talent but was also out of shape, hurt and played lazy at times.

Add an average and thin WR group with no sure-fire outside playmaker, TE took a hit with Kitselman. DL has less depth, DB lost our best CB to injury and Harrison left. I thinkbl Nico knows that next season will be tough, might cause him to come back his Senior year for draft status and either wanted big money or out.

That is why I always thought the the redshift and then play 2 years then NFL Draft plan was a little silly and arrogant. The family just assumed that Nico would play at a top NFL Draft pick level as a Sophomore and a Junior and would also attract EVERYONE in his and the class after to want to play with him.....only a few did. He had a solid Sophomore season and could have been very good as a Junior but their family's plan left no room for error. No room for mediocre seasons, no injuries, no room for patience of rosters having to be built, added to or developed in the Unlimited Portal & NIL era.

The family have put the last several years of pressure on this being Nico's "get rich" year and are making short-sighted decisions to get there when he is so close to mastering Heupel's system and getting the most out of his weapons. We might be a little thin on WR weapons now but have the Spring Portal window and time to develop guys. One of the worst 2025 scenarios is Nico only plays OK again due to his/WR/OL/TE play and then hits the portal or comes back to a loaded team next year but that doesn't fit "the plan".
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i dont disagree with your take i would just say i do think Peyton Lewis ends up being elite.
 
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