Trade Wars and Tariffs

Were you acting like this when the market just kept losing under President Obama? A bunch of folks in here have no business being in the market. Just don't pull out and all will be fine.
What??? Did you forget what President Obama inherited? He was elected in 2008 with the housing crash/recession. I promise, you guys act like yall can't remember 10 minutes ago, let alone 10 years.
 
2% cost increase?

heck Biden's EPA requires a refrigerant which is considered slightly flammable. you are over here complaining about less than 10k in increases, while other changes increases the risk of fire for new builds, as well as adding hundreds of thousands in costs to retrofit existing.

I can tell you from first hand experience the tariffs are not the issue when it comes to new construction. there are other things Trump has done that have far bigger impacts. Labor is going to be jacked up.
You know the house prices are already inflated, and you're acting flippant about 10k. Your ass is out of touch. Conservatives lack zero empathy for anyone. You won't care unless it affects you. Just a shifty person all the way around.
 
My parents retired when each reached 52. They are 88 and 77 now. They never owned a business nor made huge salaries. They spent less than they made and invested the rest. From investments and retirement, they make WAY more annually now than they ever did while working.

When they built their house, it was paid for the day we moved in. I was 11 at the time, am now 54. Always pay cash for cars and has never been in debt for anything.

They aren’t sweating this and didn’t sweat it back in 2008. If ppl are sweating it, they either aren’t looking long-term or they started late and trying to play catch up or simply haven’t invested wisely.

I have empathy for ppl but I also understand that many, many ppl personally make piss poor decisions and then blame everyone else for their failures.
Congratulations to your parents. Everyone's situation is different. My parents are retired and own their homes. That doesn't mean I want others to suffer because they may have made a bad decision. Do you people listen to the **** yall spew?
 
MAGA b!tches!


Have you really lost faith in the Orange Trumpeter? We all realize that you are highly disgruntled here lately because you are going to have to pay a tad bit more for your hand quilted Chinese silk panties. It is best to unwad those threads and realize that there is an new ummm old Orange Sherriff in town that is going to have our economy in top-notch robust shape in the near future! Are you afraid of some losses in the market? Well, grow a pair and buy up Telsa stock while the purchasing waters are fine to enter, playa. It is time to nut up and face the sweet chin music of Orange Man Mania round two. Take that!
 
As Pat Buchanan said, "They (Boomers) are the most self-righteous and entitled generation in American history." They are taking the entire country down as they go to the grave.

Pat Buchanan to me was the perfect conservative, except the protectionism. I would have gladly taken him as POTUS when he ran.
 
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2% cost increase?

heck Biden's EPA requires a refrigerant which is considered slightly flammable. you are over here complaining about less than 10k in increases, while other changes increases the risk of fire for new builds, as well as adding hundreds of thousands in costs to retrofit existing.

I can tell you from first hand experience the tariffs are not the issue when it comes to new construction. there are other things Trump has done that have far bigger impacts. Labor is going to be jacked up.
That is right about the refrigerants. Looking into replacing an existing system early this year I found that out. At that time there was a market in new pre-2025 systems wherever a few were still in inventory being shipped all over the south. I think they’ve sold out.
 
You’ll get it all back probably.
Probably maybe.

I know I will. I have 12 years min till I retire. But I'd rather the market crash due something other than a retard thinking tariffs work. I'm no conspiracy theorist but it seems Trump is doing whatever he can to weaken the US. I see nothing that shows the US being put into any position of strength on any front. I mean the dudes taking advice from a 30 year old woman going on 60 with filler in her face and lips..
 
Congratulations to your parents. Everyone's situation is different. My parents are retired and own their homes. That doesn't mean I want others to suffer because they may have made a bad decision. Do you people listen to the **** yall spew?
There’s a difference between lacking empathy and understanding that life is about decisions. You either reap the rewards or suffer the consequences of the decisions that you make. Holding people accountable for their decisions doesn’t necessarily equate to wanting to see people suffer.
 
The whole bit about tariffs is being deliberately misrepresented in the propaganda media. NPR “informed” me the other day that Americans need to be prepared for the prices of “everything” to go up analogously to the way eggs did.
 
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The US economic bloc is very, very, valuable for countries across the globe ...

From the article:

The European Union is preparing to offer reduced car import tariffs to the United States as part of negotiations aimed at preventing a potential trade war with Donald Trump.

The bloc is willing to lower its current 10 per cent import tax on American vehicles closer to the US rate of 2.5 per cent, according to Bernd Lange, head of the European Parliament's trade committee.

As part of the proposed deal, the EU would also commit to purchasing more liquefied natural gas and military equipment from the United State
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Most industries, there is a lot of truth to that.

For example, I read the Global Financial Results for my Company last year which is a top company (don't want to share the name). The Canada-US market accounting for over 80% of its total profit even though these two nations are not near the size of other regions in the Globe.

Now in some sectors, USA is not as strong of a market but we are not a market that people can just wink at and avoid.
 
2% cost increase?

heck Biden's EPA requires a refrigerant which is considered slightly flammable. you are over here complaining about less than 10k in increases, while other changes increases the risk of fire for new builds, as well as adding hundreds of thousands in costs to retrofit existing.

I can tell you from first hand experience the tariffs are not the issue when it comes to new construction. there are other things Trump has done that have far bigger impacts. Labor is going to be jacked up.
Obviously, I use marine heat pumps. The manufacturer told me they are not 100% sure what they are going to do. They really don't want an explosive gas leaking into an enclosed compartment. Every time there is a change, HVAC companies make huge $$$. My guess is this is yet another example of lobbing to the epa from industry. By the way, the propane is the main ingredient in some of the new refrigerants.
 
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The whole bit about tariffs is being deliberately misrepresented in the propaganda media. NPR “informed” me the other day that Americans need to be prepared first the prices of “everything” to go up analogously to the way eggs did.

You mean like Navarro calling tariffs a "tax cut"?

 
Obviously, I use marine heat pumps. The manufacturer told me they are not 100% sure what they are going to do. They really don't want an explosive gas leaking into an enclosed compartment. Every time there is a change, HVAC companies make huge $$$. My guess is this is yet another example of lobbing to the epa from industry. By the way, the propane is the main ingredient in some of the new refrigerants.

I don't recall @titansvolsfaninga crying about the refrigerant change or having empathy for people that effected or showing empathy for all those who lost their jobs of Biden's jab mandate.

I foresee some serious injuries and deaths due to the refrigerant change, HVAC people are not prepared do deal with the new stuff.
 
Rand Paul on Trump’s tariffs: When McKinley put tariffs on in 1890, they lost 50% of their seats… When Smoot-Hawley put their tariffs In the early 1930s, we lost the House and Senate for 60 years. So not only bad economically, they are bad politically.
 
Rand Paul on Trump’s tariffs: When McKinley put tariffs on in 1890, they lost 50% of their seats… When Smoot-Hawley put their tariffs In the early 1930s, we lost the House and Senate for 60 years. So not only bad economically, they are bad politically.

And that's what will happen to the Rs if this doesn't work. Then we'll go back to the status quo and keep kicking the can down the road until it goes over the edge and can't be kicked anymore.
 
The market goes up and it goes down. You really are starting to sound like a federal employee.
It does, and it has good reasons to do so. This dumbsh!t ain't one of them. BUT like I said, I've got plenty of time to recoup 100k lost in 2 days. It didn't drop me under 7 figures do I guess that's good.

And I am a federal employee. Teleworking from my hot tub in DC.
 
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It does, and it has good reasons to do so. This dumbsh!t ain't one of them. BUT like I said, I've got plenty of time to recoup 100k lost in 2 days. It didn't drop me under 7 figures do I guess that's good.

And I am a federal employee. Teleworking from my hot tub in DC.

Good for you.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's gone about this about as stupidly as he could have but I'm hoping like hell it works out in the end. I'm in the wait and see mode right now, I've lived through this shot a couple times and always came out better so no reason to throw a hissy fit YET.
 
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