President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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McDad said:
He wants to tariff fentanyl???

I don't even know what to say.
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It’s pretty dumb if he’s talking about smuggled drugs. If he’s talking about the pharmaceutical side where it’s used in medicine I guess it could make sense but I’m not sure that’s the fent that’s killing people.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's the easy one to reconcile. Issues like immigration, Israel/Palestine, and just the general behavior and attitudes of the right are the things I can't reconcile with the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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As a Mormon who was taught about Jesus, a created being who is the spirit-brother of Lucifer, and a works-baaed gospel that eventually results in the 'better' among us becoming gods of their own Universes, I'm not sure you're the one to trust per the judgments. But I'd be happy to discuss if you want to post specifics. Warning that it'll be based on Old/New Testament (minus the book of Mormon), and what they reveal about the subjects.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
We the people are the government
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Give it up. Seriously. Christianity calls for volunteerism as acts of love. Socialism calls for submission of wealth by force to the government for them to make decisions on how it's distributed.

Christianity== "Make selfless decisions with your time, talents and treasures, filling needs by the leading and priorities of God."
Socialism=="Let the secular gov't take your money and decision-making as self-protection against their threats of what will happen to you if you don't let them."

You're just wrong. Take the L and move along.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
As a Mormon who was taught about Jesus, a created being who is the spirit-brother of Lucifer, and a works-baaed gospel that eventually results in the 'better' among us becoming gods of their own Universes, I'm not sure you're the one to trust per the judgments. But I'd be happy to discuss if you want to post specifics. Warning that it'll be based on Old/New Testament (minus the book of Mormon), and what they reveal about the subjects.
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swampfoxfan said:
Just curious how to magas that claim to be Christian deal with the "I was hungy" parts in the Bible?
How about the I was a stranger part?
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I still don't know what "maga" is, despite many attempts for a definition, but, as a Christian, I interpret the Bible in the context of who Jesus was speaking to, and how the early church responded to those teachings.

For instance, I look at the fact that Jesus was speaking to ordinary people, he wasn't marching on Rome or leading a protest to Antipas or to Pontius Pilate. So, I understand His instruction to be targeted at ME, not at government. I can't fully live out my faith by letting government do the work while I take the credit. My desire to help others is not borne out of social responsibility, it derives from a changed spirit that now bears fruit willingly, not out of coercion or as a result of forced "goodness."

As to the early church response? Well, again, I don't see marches on capitals, or pleading with government authority to meet the people's needs.
I see Acts 2:45. I see James 1:27.

Put more simply, the life I live though my Savior, Jesus Christ, has to be lived in me, because government is not big enough for that life.
 
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McDad said:
I don't know how to sort out your question. We can't believe:
- the administration
- ICE
- the deportee
- his lawyer
- his family.

I guess it is going to come down to, "if you're here illegally, you are at risk of deportation to wherever we can send you". Everything else is secondary.
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I have to wonder if it’s intentional.

They want illegals to fear not simply being deported… they want them thinking “if I get caught, I could get sent to an El Salvador prison”
 
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85SugarVol said:
I have to wonder if it’s intentional.

They want illegals to fear not simply being deported… they want them thinking “if I get caught, I could get sent to an El Salvador prison”
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Never considered that. I know from experience when a policy goes from lax to rigid enforcement, examples are made and it does make the others toe the line so to speak.
 
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