President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[LouderVol]

I've mulled this over for a while. I don't agree. If the admin or Hegseth says it isn't classified, or not war details, then they cannot find fault with a reporter who takes the exchange public, can they?

wasn't the classification mentioned in the chat? Isn't that what OPSEC means/refers to?

 

[bamawriter]

wasn't the classification mentioned in the chat? Isn't that what OPSEC means/refers to?

Exactly.

And if the administration wants to prove their position and embarrass Goldberg, why don't they just release the chat? After all, it's not classified.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Which probably violates the presidential records act.

This is about the only reason for the usage of Killary’s private email server and non approved messaging apps. They obviously circumvent the cataloging and archival process. Their usage is not congruent with the notion of a “transparent and accountable” administration.

 

[NorthDallas40]

wasn't the classification mentioned in the chat? Isn't that what OPSEC means/refers to?

OPSEC is just an acronym meaning operational security. The “what and how” of a mission plan if you will is OPSEC. I can’t think of a case where that kind of information pertaining to a military operation would never be classified.

 

[Orangeburst]

“I appeared on my own screen only as “JG.”

I wonder if someone else in Trump admin is a JG..maybe Jarrett Guarantano.

 

[McDad]

wasn't the classification mentioned in the chat? Isn't that what OPSEC means/refers to?

I don't know. I just picked up the convo this morning. The article I read didn't mention specifics of the chat or OPSEC.

What does it mean?

 

[McDad]

Exactly.

And if the administration wants to prove their position and embarrass Goldberg, why don't they just release the chat? After all, it's not classified.

Is that a one way street in your opinion? Couldn't JG do the same?

 

[Orangeburst]

And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC”—operations security. “I welcome other thoughts.”


Here is the non paywall copy.

https://archive.is/RFqeE

 

[McDad]

OPSEC is just an acronym meaning operational security. The “what and how” of a mission plan if you will is OPSEC. I can’t think of a case where that kind of information pertaining to a military operation would never be classified.

Thanks

 

[Orangeburst]

Thanks

you are welcome

 

[NorthDallas40]

But is there a hierarchy such as:
Confidential
Secret
Top Secret
Classified
"For your eyes only"

Only the first three are actual classification levels. There is another level now called CUI which stands for Controlled Unclassified Information which loosely fits your “for your eyes only”. In the past CUI was mostly called FOUO which means For Official Use Only but that label has been superseded by CUI

ETA: IF the chat actually contained no classified information the obvious label to apply to the entire exchange would be CUI

 

[NorthDallas40]

“I appeared on my own screen only as “JG.”

I wonder if someone else in Trump admin is a JG..maybe Jarrett Guarantano.

In Signal if you don’t apply your own label just like we do here on VN the app by default uses the initials of your name.

 

[Orangeburst]

In Signal if you don’t apply your own label just like we do here on VN the app by default uses the initials of your name.

nm.I dont know how it works

 

[McDad]

nm.I dont know how it works

That's never atopped you before.

 

[hog88]

So you believe the use of Signal in this manner was just a one off?

Not a chance it was a one off. Not with this administration or previous ones (using similar).

 

[Orangeburst]

That's never atopped you before.

The Eddie Krueger effect applies to many of us..a real nightmare

 

[hog88]

I have to wonder, how do you "accidentally fat finger" putting Jeffrey Goldberg in that chat?

I don't believe you do accidently add him. Why would he be in any of the participants immediate contact list considering his history with POTUS?

 

[hog88]

wasn't the classification mentioned in the chat? Isn't that what OPSEC means/refers to?

Yeah, but the admin has came out and publicly claimed no classified information was shared in the chat so he's free to release the entire thing.

 

[Orangeburst]

I don't believe you do accidently add him. Why would he be in any of the participants immediate contact list considering his history with POTUS?

a leaker?

 

[LSU-SIU]

I don't believe you do accidently add him. Why would he be in any of the participants immediate contact list considering his history with POTUS?

As I mentioned the investigation might actually revolve around this... (I have not verified from another source)

 

[Orangeburst]

If Loving you is Wong, I Dont want to be Right.

 

[hog88]

a leaker?

Possibly. Or someone that just wanted to embarrass the administration.

 

[hndog609]

If Loving you is Wong, I Dont want to be Right.

Wong place, Wong time?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

So Crockett called Abbott “Hot Wheels”..what a loud obnoxious POS

Yeah but the (D) and her skin color gets her a free pass.

Dr King is rolling in his grave.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Wong place, Wong time?

Two Wongs don't make a right.