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PEPPERJAX said:
The difference is that the British deserved it back then and Telsa doesn't today. The weird framing was brought into this because of your ridiculous comparison.
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The EITC was a government enterprise, but it had public shareholders, same as Tesla. They were all hurt because of an attack against their leadership, essentially.

Furthermore, tea, of course, was a whole big industry here in the United States, with people relying on it across the supply chain from wholesalers, to retailers and restaurants. EITC wasn't direct to consumer. All those people were hurt.

Your thesis is that the British deserved it, but they actually didn't all deserve it, and of course the colonials negatively affected by it didn't deserve it either.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah
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Ok. Still on the same page.

If the purpose is to harm Elon, and they are attempting that with stock price, is the arson and doxing accomplishing that?
Do you see a correlation between those actions and drop in stock price?
 
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McDad said:
Ok. Still on the same page.

If the purpose is to harm Elon, and they are attempting that with stock price, is the arson and doxing accomplishing that?
Do you see a correlation between those actions and drop in stock price?
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He thinks the WNBA is profitable so he’s not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
 
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n_huffhines said:
How does that weird framing of it make a qualitative difference?

It's a protest of a company that is completely intertwined with government. They didn't like taxation without representation? Understandable. People don't like Musk buying his way into the most powerful bureaucratic position in the government. Understandable.
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Our government doesn’t use it’s military to prevent other companies from competing with Tesla so it’s not intertwined with Tesla.

My goodness you have gone off the deep end
 
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McDad said:
Ok. Still on the same page.

If the purpose is to harm Elon, and they are attempting that with stock price, is the arson and doxing accomplishing that?
Do you see a correlation between those actions and drop in stock price?
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IDK what you're talking about with doxing. I have only been talking about the vandalism on Tesla property, which has been going on worldwide since late January, I believe, starting with references to the time he didn't heil Hitler.

Ultimately, his stock price is falling because of bad behavior. He's getting vandalized because of bad behavior. Maybe stock price isn't a symptom of vandalism. Maybe both vandalism and stock price are just symptoms of his bad behavior. I don't really know and nobody can say.

I do not think arson is a great way to hurt Tesla's value, but I think the vandalism that paints Musk as a nazi has great potential to affect Tesla's value.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What qualitative difference does that make?

I fkn promise you loyalists and Brits were saying this about the BTP

Same with the Tea business in question

Of course the colonials were reliant on the industry, as well. It wasn't just the EITC hurt that day.


I agree about personal owners deserve to be left alone. But OP was about Tesla dealership vandalism, and that's all I'm talking about. It's a very close comparison to the Boston Tea Party, if we're being honest.
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You don't agree that Tesla private property needs to be left alone? You are the picture of a libertarian.
 
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hog88 said:
No, commoners did not have holdings in the EITC. That was reserved for the privileged class. Your ignorance of history is astounding.
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Why are you the way that you are, smart guy?

Nobody said "commoners." So disingenuous. I said public. Some would argue today that the people with Tesla Stock are a privileged class. Anybody could buy into the EITC. You just had to be wealthy enough to buy stock, so yeah, probably no farmers, but normal businessman were part of the shareholders.

You guys cannot argue that the innocent public was not hurt by the BTP. It's ridiculous. Just stop.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Why are you the way that you are, smart guy?

Nobody said "commoners." I said public. Some would argue today that the people with Tesla Stock are a privileged class. Anybody could buy into the EITC. You just had to be wealthy enough to buy stock, so yeah, probably no farmers, but normal businessman were part of the shareholders.

You guys cannot argue that the innocent public was not hurt by the BTP. It's ridiculous. Just stop.
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How many people own Tesla stock through their retirement plans, 401k, IRAs?
 
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n_huffhines said:
IDK what you're talking about with doxing. I have only been talking about the vandalism on Tesla property, which has been going on worldwide since late January, I believe, starting with references to the time he didn't heil Hitler.

Ultimately, his stock price is falling because of bad behavior. He's getting vandalized because of bad behavior. Maybe stock price isn't a symptom of vandalism. Maybe both vandalism and stock price are just symptoms of his bad behavior. I don't really know and nobody can say.

I do not think arson is a great way to hurt Tesla's value, but I think the vandalism that paints Musk as a nazi has great potential to affect Tesla's value.
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Summary from how i see the convo:
H: some want to hurt Elon.
M: They arent hurting Elon
H: ARson hurts elon.
M: No, it doesnt.
H: Yes. Stock price.
M: is stock price related to vandalism?
H: I do not think arson is a great way to hurt Tesla's value

Do you now see how youre confusing me?
 
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Warning. Rant ahead.

I am right at this very moment coming to a realization. The more fringe elements in society (from ave joes to political elites) act apoplectic and justified about their cause de juor, the more apathetic i get about all of it.

Burn teslas? Ok fine.
Shoot the arsonists? Cool.
Ukraine needs our help. Meh
People deported without a court case. Yawn.
Government waste and abuse. Next.
Government over reach. So?
Israel and gaza are horrid. Im hungry.
Trans athletes. Who cares.

Everyone in a constsnt state of histrionics and i increasingly dont give a schiano about any of it.

Rant over.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
One was a protest against British taxes before the United States was officially formed. The other is a bunch of law breaking crybabies that Don't like Musk because he was selected by Trump to head up DOGE. There is more to Tesla than Elon. You get that right? There are people that go to work everyday for Tesla that have families to support as well as customers that shouldn't have to worry about riding around in A Telsa fearing some vandal is going to phck up their ****. You also probably thought the BLM and summer of Love riots were cool, so this is like talking to a knot on a log.
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Lolz he’s really off the deep end with his unhinged, lover scorned, hatred for Elon.

Elon is the government?
(Is that like Fauci is Science?)

And I don’t know what goofy juice that boy is on to come up with “British EIC is to the Crown, as Tesla is to the US effin Government”

He’s lost it.
 
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McDad said:
Warning. Rant ahead.

I am right at this very moment coming to a realization. The more fringe elements in society (from ave joes to political elites) act apoplectic and justified about their cause de juor, the more apathetic i get about all of it.

Burn teslas? Ok fine.
Shoot the arsonists? Cool.
Ukraine needs our help. Meh
People deported without a court case. Yawn.
Government waste and abuse. Next.
Government over reach. So?
Israel and gaza are horrid. Im hungry.
Trans athletes. Who cares.

Everyone in a constsnt state of histrionics and i increasingly dont give a schiano about any of it.

Rant over.
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I am just here for the gifs and laffs
 
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McDad said:
Warning. Rant ahead.

I am right at this very moment coming to a realization. The more fringe elements in society (from ave joes to political elites) act apoplectic and justified about their cause de juor, the more apathetic i get about all of it.

Burn teslas? Ok fine.
Shoot the arsonists? Cool.
Ukraine needs our help. Meh
People deported without a court case. Yawn.
Government waste and abuse. Next.
Government over reach. So?
Israel and gaza are horrid. Im hungry.
Trans athletes. Who cares.

Everyone in a constsnt state of histrionics and i increasingly dont give a schiano about any of it.

Rant over.
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That's how the psyop is designed to work.
 
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hog88 said:
How many people own Tesla stock through their retirement plans, 401k, IRAs?
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Is this going to demonstrate that the public wasn't hurt by the BTP?

Imagine how mad those people are at Elon?
 
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McDad said:
Summary from how i see the convo:
H: some want to hurt Elon.
M: They arent hurting Elon
H: ARson hurts elon.
M: No, it doesnt.
H: Yes. Stock price.
M: is stock price related to vandalism?
H: I do not think arson is a great way to hurt Tesla's value

Do you now see how youre confusing me?
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Sorry I confused you. I have about 20 people talking at me about this today, and you're one of the 5 or so that I'm not ignoring, and it's still a lot to handle. It seems you are caught up on something that is an aside to me, and I didn't attribute it enough attention to avoid your confusion. When I said stock price is hurt by you saying "arson," I was thinking about the vandalism campaign as a whole. I definitely did not mean this one event that happened yesterday. I'm talking about months of vandalism and stock price falling.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Sorry I confused you. I have about 20 people talking at me about this today, and you're one of the 5 or so that I'm not ignoring, and it's still a lot to handle. It seems you are caught up on something that is an aside to me, and I didn't attribute it enough attention to avoid your confusion. When I said stock price is hurt by you saying "arson," I was thinking about the vandalism campaign as a whole. I definitely did not mean this one event that happened yesterday. I'm talking about months of vandalism and stock price falling.
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Thats much clearer. Thanks.

And i agree with you point in abother post that it is hard to attribute the amount of stock fluctuation to the worldwide campaign against musk, bad pr by musk, or worries over tesla as a business.
 
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