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Linebacker Cody Barton reached agreement on a three-year, $21 million deal with the Tennessee Titans, sources told ESPN's Turron Davenport on Monday, confirming multiple reports.
 
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Spending our money on LBs who are better against the run than the pass and OTs who can’t pass block doesn’t feel like the type of analytics driven approach I was hoping for
 
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Vol8188 said:
Spending our money on LBs who are better against the run than the pass and OTs who can’t pass block doesn’t feel like the type of analytics driven approach I was hoping for
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That's not a bad deal for Barton. 100+ tackles the last 3 years is pretty good. Even had a couple ints last year.
 
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Vol knight said:
That's not a bad deal for Barton. 100+ tackles the last 3 years is pretty good. Even had a couple ints last year.
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PFF grades have him 28th against the run out of all LBs (not bad) and 65th against the pass (that’s bad).

If we are going to spend money, a run stopping LB isn’t where analytics would tell you to place money.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
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Interestingly he was top 10 in the league in pass blocking win rate. I wonder if the issue is just that he has a high number of snaps and therefore the raw number of pressures is misleading rather than seeing his pressure rate?

Edit: probably not, PFF has him 65th in pass blocking grade
 
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Vol8188 said:
Spending our money on LBs who are better against the run than the pass and OTs who can’t pass block doesn’t feel like the type of analytics driven approach I was hoping for
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That would imply that Callahan and Co are actually smart enough to use analytics
 
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Really jealous of what Washington is doing. Granted we aren’t in the same position they are as a roster
 
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Super underwhelmed with the start of FA. Moore isn't a terrible signing, even though the contract is awful for a non top tier LT. We had to address LT or RT though.

But Barton is pretty mediocre. Wish we had been able to land Greenlaw or Bolton. We still need a safety and now all the top options are gone. We also need to replace Landry and we need a QB.

I am having a hard time seeing the vision here. I know FA has only started, but if we are taking Cam Ward at no. 1, we need to be spending to improve the team in order to give him a legitimate shot. Hopefully, we aren't taking Ward at no. 1.
 
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Carp said:
Super underwhelmed with the start of FA. Moore isn't a terrible signing, even though the contract is awful for a non top tier LT. We had to address LT or RT though.

But Barton is pretty mediocre. Wish we had been able to land Greenlaw or Bolton. We still need a safety and now all the top options are gone. We also need to replace Landry and we need a QB.

I am having a hard time seeing the vision here. I know FA has only started, but if we are taking Cam Ward at no. 1, we need to be spending to improve the team in order to give him a legitimate shot. Hopefully, we aren't taking Ward at no. 1.
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I’m hoping we are trading back, but I’m afraid they’ll just take Ward. Teams that need a QB tend to talk themselves into believing whoever is available is the right guy.
 
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Carp said:
Super underwhelmed with the start of FA. Moore isn't a terrible signing, even though the contract is awful for a non top tier LT. We had to address LT or RT though.

But Barton is pretty mediocre. Wish we had been able to land Greenlaw or Bolton. We still need a safety and now all the top options are gone. We also need to replace Landry and we need a QB.

I am having a hard time seeing the vision here. I know FA has only started, but if we are taking Cam Ward at no. 1, we need to be spending to improve the team in order to give him a legitimate shot. Hopefully, we aren't taking Ward at no. 1.
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I agree that the Moore move isn’t horrific despite the contract. If we are bringing in Ward, he needs protection. And this would allow us to move Latham to RT. So hopefully we are paying for a LT that also improves our RT. Fingers crossed.

Agree on Barton. Paying for tackles is a losing strategy.

The more the process goes on, I won’t hate taking Ward. But if we do, we need to be more aggressive with adding targets for him. A lot of solid WRs available right now
 
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Lot of discussion about adding people through FA. When the new GM took over, he was clear in his philosophy...fill immediate roster holes with FA and build the team through the draft.

The Titans are easily looking at another 2 to 3 years of rebuild.
 
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Looking like it's going to be Ward with no moves at QB. I'll obviously give him a shot but if it is Ward I fully expect us to be irrelevant for at least 3-5 more years.

Hopefully there's a trade or deal meeting worked out for a QB
 
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KB5252 said:
Looking like it's going to be Ward with no moves at QB. I'll obviously give him a shot but if it is Ward I fully expect us to be irrelevant for at least 3-5 more years.

Hopefully there's a trade or deal meeting worked out for a QB
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I don’t think we have to be in any hurry to move at QB, even if we aren’t taking a QB.
 
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If they take a QB at #1 they better darn sure get the o-line up to snuff and make sure he has reliable weapons. I think if they draft QB at #1 I would still want a FA vet to be the day 1 starter unless said rookie is really really good.
 
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Take Miami QB kid at # 1.

What the heck.

Might be Lamar Jackson and/or Tom Brady and/or Peyton fricken' Manning.

It is a QB game
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Take Miami QB kid at # 1.

What the heck.

Might be Lamar Jackson and/or Tom Brady and/or Peyton fricken' Manning.

It is a QB game
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Or he could be Marcus Mariotta, Will Levis......etc. in a down year for QB talent your don't have you take one.

My huge concern with him is he thrives in chaos. To the point he almost refuses to play within the confines of a system. Can't do that in the NFL.
 
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KB5252 said:
Or he could be Marcus Mariotta, Will Levis......etc. in a down year for QB talent your don't have you take one.

My huge concern with him is he thrives in chaos. To the point he almost refuses to play within the confines of a system. Can't do that in the NFL.
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Sanders any better?

I don't watch much non-SEC
 
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