State of the Union 2025 Edition

Let me ask you, have you checked what the percentage of viewers was who were Democrats? I think if you dig a little deeper you will see why the numbers are tipping into the 70's.

Having said that, the Dems predictably handled this very poorly, especially with the not being willing to applaud folks who deserved it. I think it reflects the reason I dropped my party affiliation, and that is that the leadership of the Dem party is undisciplined and so caught up in being anti-Trump (which believe me, I get) that they can't help but maker a spectacle out of their disdain for him even when that spectacle boomerangs and makes them look bad.

They need to let the social issues go for the moment and focus on what worked last election cycle so well for the GOP, which is the economy. I heard so little from pre and post debate commentary about the tax cuts favoring the wealthy and just ephemeral, non specific talk of rising prices.

They need to get specific. They need to show projections of what the tariffs could cost, depending on how far the potential trade wars might go. They need to show proof that the back and forth on tariffs, having them for 48 hours and dropping them, how that wreaks havoc in the markets and makes us vulnerable. They need to show drops in value of 401k's caused by Trump's mania about economic policy.

Fact is, everyone at this point knows that Trump lies a lot and is prone to unjustified hyperbole, which often gets him into trouble. Its long past time to stomp your feet and yell that he's lying, its now time to show the effects of the lying on our daily lives.
The only "plan" they have for the economy is fire Musk, and tax the rich. And the rich = errybody.
 
I know you are aware last night was much about what we're going to do. More like a campaign speech, but mostly about posturing against the Democrats. The Democrats gave an extremely bad look. The smart thing would have been to smartly stand up and clap loudly. With a smirk. Instead of doing the obvious protest, do one with some creative flair. Out of touch
I kind of hate to admit it, but he seems to be knocking it out the park so far. I think Trump really believes the GOP can gain senate seats in the midterms while holding the presidency. If the red wave happens, we'll find out how much control of the GOP he really has.
 
Do you know how much of their economic output, as a %, is dedicated to defense spending? Plus, Europe and specifically NATO, do you realize there are a plethora of countries with exclusive responsibility on each one of them. Vance's characterization of England was both immature and ignorant
Yes, I do. The US spends more than all of the rest of NATO added together. Here is a linkl

 
I kind of hate to admit it, but he seems to be knocking it out the park so far. I think Trump really believes the GOP can gain senate seats in the midterms while holding the presidency. If the red wave happens, we'll find out how much control of the GOP he really has.
I don't know. He kind of has a bad habit of of sometimes supporting bad candidates if they kiss his rear-end before anyone else. I think Kemp will run for Senator in Georgia and Ossoff will be a one-term wonder so there is a very likely pickup.
 
I don't know. He kind of has a bad habit of of sometimes supporting bad candidates if they kiss his rear-end before anyone else. I think Kemp will run for Senator in Georgia and Ossoff will be a one-term wonder so there is a very likely pickup.
Kemp will be an interesting piece.

He isn't a trumper, but because he is red, the dems pretend like he is. He won't kiss the ring, so will probably get primaried by someone who does.

his run at governor hasn't been flawless, but the damage hasn't been because of partisan hackery from his office.
 
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You are one of the most gullible people on the planet.
Buddy, they removed the funding from their bill. They literally cut the funds for childhood cancer.

Gullible is believing everything Trump says, seeing the reality of his decisions, and denying it because he said things are good.
 
Buddy, they removed the funding from their bill. They literally cut the funds for childhood cancer.

Gullible is believing everything Trump says, seeing the reality of his decisions, and denying it because he said things are good.
Show me.
 
I see Green got censured. Ten Dems apparently joined. Agree with it.

Will repeat a comment I made earlier which is I wish we had Prime Minister's Questions like the UK. Would be way better than SOU.
 
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I don't know. He kind of has a bad habit of of sometimes supporting bad candidates if they kiss his rear-end before anyone else. I think Kemp will run for Senator in Georgia and Ossoff will be a one-term wonder so there is a very likely pickup.
Kemp has been a surprisingly good governor. He would be a great choice for senator if he doesn't have presidential ambitions yet. I read that Lucy McBath is looking to go for the dem nom for governor. She'd be a pretty formidable opponent being the media darling she is.
 
They literally cut it from the spending bill, then after backlash it went through standalone. Other provisions have not.

Why would they cut that in the first place?

It's literally in the links posted that you obviously didn't read, but opposed as me being "gullible"...however that makes any sense.
 

"Green said, “I am absolutely going to do it. This level of incivility emanating from the presidency, much of it in policy, is something we cannot tolerate. If President Barack Hussein Obama had behaved in this fashion, he would have been impeached. There is no question in my mind. So I believe that this president cannot escape this one thing that each member of Congress has. There are four hundred and thirty five of us, we have it. He is a Goliath but there are four hundred and thirty five Davids in Congress. I’m one of them andI am going to bring articles of impeachment.”

lol.
 
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"Green said, “I am absolutely going to do it. This level of incivility emanating from the presidency, much of it in policy, is something we cannot tolerate. If President Barack Hussein Obama had behaved in this fashion, he would have been impeached. There is no question in my mind. So I believe that this president cannot escape this one thing that each member of Congress has. There are four hundred and thirty five of us, we have it. He is a Goliath but there are four hundred and thirty five Davids in Congress. I’m one of them andI am going to bring articles of impeachment.”

lol.
He sounds like he is of sound mind.
 

"Green said, “I am absolutely going to do it. This level of incivility emanating from the presidency, much of it in policy, is something we cannot tolerate. If President Barack Hussein Obama had behaved in this fashion, he would have been impeached. There is no question in my mind. So I believe that this president cannot escape this one thing that each member of Congress has. There are four hundred and thirty five of us, we have it. He is a Goliath but there are four hundred and thirty five Davids in Congress. I’m one of them andI am going to bring articles of impeachment.”

lol.

Good luck
 
I'm not sure the narrative is "we should do more", but not to chop our aid to them unreasonably
Is it reasonable to spend our children's money as debt, so that they can continue to kidnap their men off the streets to be murdered on the battlefield, all to continue a war that they will never win, for land they will never get back?
 
Is it reasonable to spend our children's money as debt, so that they can continue to kidnap their men off the streets to be murdered on the battlefield, all to continue a war that they will never win, for land they will never get back?
Different context, but to answer your question, NO
 
It had nothing to do with standing up, yelling and waving a cane at POTUS. His voters need better in 2025. He’s not even the cool Al Green either.

 
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