UF leaps us in Net rankings after Saturday's results

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Margin of victory is part of the net rankings. And they beat A&M by 19pts. But yea the rankings sometimes make no sense.
 
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Any seasoned UT fan can see what's coming unless we win out and take the decision out of the committee's hands. They can make the numbers say what they want to justify any decision they make. If we don't win out and win at least two in the SECT, watch 'em push UF or Bama over us. With all the various metrics being listed and no rules for weighing them, they can do whatever they want if things are remotely close. If we lose either of our last two regular season games, we're gonna be a 2 seed and maybe not even the top 2 seed. And regardless of how it goes with the seed, watch us draw a murderers row in the NCAA tournament.
 
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GBO18 said:
Margin of victory is part of the net rankings. And they beat A&M by 19pts. But yea the rankings sometimes make no sense.
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So a margin of victory at home trumps a win on the road and 4 more Quad 1 wins than FL. Why create a Quad system and not use it.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Any seasoned UT fan can see what's coming unless we win out and take the decision out of the committee's hands. They can make the numbers say what they want to justify any decision they make. If we don't win out and win at least two in the SECT, watch 'em push UF or Bama over us. With all the various metrics being listed and no rules for weighing them, they can do whatever they want if things are remotely close. If we lose either of our last two regular season games, we're gonna be a 2 seed and maybe not even the top 2 seed. And regardless of how it goes with the seed, watch us draw a murderers row in the NCAA tournament.
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#BVS
 
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VolCalls said:
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Not so fast, this is not BVS, it happened a few years ago fact and we ended up a 2 Seed.
What's more, we won the Conference tourney, the regular season and still got a 2 Seed.
So call it what you want but it is not BVS. It is the committee adjusting to their wants.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
So a margin of victory at home trumps a win on the road and 4 more Quad 1 wins than FL. Why create a Quad system and not use it.
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It’s just part of it. Maybe one our of wins dropped from quad 2 to 3. Could be a combination of things.
 
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If we win out . . . Does that equal a 1 seed? Nope. The requirement will then move to how we perform in the SEC tournament is my guess. Bottom line - UT / UF / Bama will all be really close at the end of the season. If Bama loses to UF and Bama . . . They will fall out of contention for a 1 seed period. If they beat both, they will most certainly be back in consideration.

I think UT ends up a 2 seed because we split the last two games . . . Or we only win one In the SEC tournament. However, UT is good enough and gritty enough to win these last two. But the conference is so stacked . . . IF the SEC tourney has any bearing on seeding (maybe it doesn’t), we might need to make the finals or even win it to get a 1 seed.

I doubt the SEC gets 3 one seeds. Currently it would be Auburn, Florida, Duke, and Houston I think.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
So a margin of victory at home trumps a win on the road and 4 more Quad 1 wins than FL. Why create a Quad system and not use it.
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The NET is a statistical ranking that uses offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency along with a component that includes wins and loses based on strength of opponent and location (known as team value index). It doesnt have anything to do with numbers of quad wins. So Florida’s win last night did something mathematically in either their offensive or defensive efficiency or how much they won by (which does factor into their team value index), that moved their index slightly ahead of ours. The NCAA does use NET rankings to determine the strength of your opponent by putting them into quads. So both us and Florida got a quad 1 win last night.
 
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GBO18 said:
Margin of victory is part of the net rankings. And they beat A&M by 19pts. But yea the rankings sometimes make no sense.
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They took margin of victory out a few years ago. Efficiency is a component of it.
 
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The quad records don’t factor into the ranking. The quad tiers are created BECAUSE of the ranking.

The NET consists of record, strength of schedule, where games are won, and then efficiency is the predictive component.
 
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VolGee4 said:
The quad records don’t factor into the ranking. The quad tiers are created BECAUSE of the ranking.

The NET consists of record, strength of schedule, where games are won, and then efficiency is the predictive component.
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Quad records don’t count but they kinda do. If a team drops from quad 2 to 3 that will hurt your strength of schedule right?
 
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GBO18 said:
Quad records don’t count but they kinda do. If a team drops from quad 2 to 3 that will hurt your strength of schedule right?
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I don’t know how SOS is calculated. I don’t think simply dropping quads means that, but generally, yes, that means that opponent isn’t as good.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Not so fast, this is not BVS, it happened a few years ago fact and we ended up a 2 Seed.
What's more, we won the Conference tourney, the regular season and still got a 2 Seed.
So call it what you want but it is not BVS. It is the committee adjusting to their wants.
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You may want to look at the season as a whole and who the #1 seeds were before you spout false information. We were a #2 seed in 2019 but did not win the SEC regular season or tournament that year. We were a #3 seed in 2022 after winning the tournament but we were 3rd in the league during the regular season. If you feel we deserved a #1 seed either of those years please spell out a rational argument other than the same old “the committee just wants to screw us” narrative.

#BVS
 
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TMvol10 said:
The NET is a statistical ranking that uses offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency along with a component that includes wins and loses based on strength of opponent and location (known as team value index). It doesnt have anything to do with numbers of quad wins. So Florida’s win last night did something mathematically in either their offensive or defensive efficiency or how much they won by (which does factor into their team value index), that moved their index slightly ahead of ours. The NCAA does use NET rankings to determine the strength of your opponent by putting them into quads. So both us and Florida got a quad 1 win last night.
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You are probably dead on. Thanks for the explanation. I do believe that the Offensive Efficiency numbers are not equally weighted in the formula. What Tennessee has done this year Defensively is historic. The games this year Tennessee Defense has been a major factor. Auburn 51 points, Alabama 76, Florida at home 44, Just a few examples. Defense does carry but does get the credit.
Offense Efficiency given more credit. Eye candy.
 
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GBO18 said:
Quad records don’t count but they kinda do. If a team drops from quad 2 to 3 that will hurt your strength of schedule right?
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Based on what I’ve observed since the NET Rankings were put into place a few years ago, the two most influential categories are Quad One wins and Quad 3-4 losses. Our numbers in both categories (10 and zero) are excellent.

Edit: I’m talking about which categories are most important to the Selection Committee.
 
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VolCalls said:
Based on what I’ve observed since the NET Rankings were put into place a few years ago, the two most influential categories are Quad One wins and Quad 3-4 losses. Our numbers in both categories (10 and zero) are excellent.
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Haha ok so why did Florida jump us then? We have more than Florida. They need a website that break downs the net rankings formula by category to see how it shakes out weekly.
 
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