War in Ukraine

#84,401
#84,401
kiddiedoc said:
Russia/Ukraine. Serious question: where does this rank in the American taxpayers' interest? Where do you want your money to go? What does the Ukraine do to benefit us?

Other options for your hard earned money to help:

North Carolina disaster relief
California fire relief
American homelessness
American mental health crisis
African starvation and illness
Indonesia homelessness and illness
Mexican drug cartel and sex trafficking
Continued terrorist activity in Gaza vs Israel

I would love to hear why continued support for Ukraine is justified.
Click to expand...
We agreed to protect them for them giving up their Nukes. They don't give them up without that. Russia doesn't invade if they had them. So here we are .
 
  • Like
Reactions: n_huffhines
#84,402
#84,402
volfanhill said:
We agreed to protect them for them giving up their Nukes. They don't give them up without that. Russia doesn't invade if they had them. So here we are .
Click to expand...
The countries gave security assurances not guarantees to the Ukraine. If they had not agreed very likely multiple countries would have invaded. I believe everyone didn't think the Ukraine had the ability to even maintain them.

Here we are 2014 and John McCain is in kviv.
 
#84,404
#84,404
Carl Pickens said:
Zelensky got a little too big for his Baby Gap britches and insulted the Pres and VP.
The “and you have nice ocean and don’t feel it, but you will in the future” comment was an outrageously stupid thing to say in that situation.
Im surprised no one interrupted and asked “what the hell did you just say”?
Click to expand...
Yeah, I was like is that a threat?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Orange_Crush and Carl Pickens
#84,405
#84,405
kiddiedoc said:
Russia/Ukraine. Serious question: where does this rank in the American taxpayers' interest? Where do you want your money to go? What does the Ukraine do to benefit us?

Other options for your hard earned money to help:

North Carolina disaster relief
California fire relief
American homelessness
American mental health crisis
African starvation and illness
Indonesia homelessness and illness
Mexican drug cartel and sex trafficking
Continued terrorist activity in Gaza vs Israel

I would love to hear why continued support for Ukraine is justified.
Click to expand...
Without a reduction in military budget, it doesn't really matter. We're gonna be taxed the same no matter what. Given that I'm gonna pay the same no matter what towards the military, I'd prefer it go toward stopping Russian jingoist intrusion into sovereign democratic nations.
 
#84,408
#84,408
VOLLeeann said:
We're about to see how quickly the U.S. can become obsolete. Europe cannot risk a Russian win. A Pootin victory in Ukraine won't be enough. He'll turn his eyes to countries that are NATO members, and Europe will have to send physical troops. They can either outlast Putin, or potentially face another World War with us on the side of Russia.

That's why European Countries have been saying this week that they are considering putting boots on the ground to defend Ukraine, because they know that Pootin will invade other countries after this.
Click to expand...
1000001437.gif
 
  • Like
Reactions: CABVOL, Vol since 77, InVOLuntary and 3 others
#84,409
#84,409
VOLLeeann said:
We're about to see how quickly the U.S. can become obsolete. Europe cannot risk a Russian win. A Pootin victory in Ukraine won't be enough. He'll turn his eyes to countries that are NATO members, and Europe will have to send physical troops. They can either outlast Putin, or potentially face another World War with us on the side of Russia.

That's why European Countries have been saying this week that they are considering putting boots on the ground to defend Ukraine, because they know that Pootin will invade other countries after this.
Click to expand...
Let me guess. You think if Putin wins he is gonna take over Europe right? The US will never become obsolete. You have no clue what you are talking about.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CagleMtnVol, InVOLuntary, kiddiedoc and 1 other person
#84,410
#84,410
lostsheep said:
It's important to have the right people in the right places at significant points in history.
Trump's failures at supporting Ukraine and Zelensky today is an example of having the wrong person in place.
Imagine FDR taking the same approach with Churchill during WWII, and siding with Hitler against European nations.
Click to expand...
Why should we continue to aide Ukraine? And please don’t say to prevent WW3 or Putin taking over Europe.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CagleMtnVol, InVOLuntary and norrislakevol
#84,411
#84,411
kiddiedoc said:
Russia/Ukraine. Serious question: where does this rank in the American taxpayers' interest? Where do you want your money to go? What does the Ukraine do to benefit us?
Click to expand...
A majority of our aid to Ukraine has been in giving their military second and third generation weapons/munitions that probably weren't otherwise going to be used in combat, and a lot of which would eventually be scrapped.

What is the taxpayers' interest to leave this stuff, already paid for, rusting away in storage?
 
  • Like
Reactions: BeardedVol
#84,412
#84,412
Velo Vol said:
A majority of our aid to Ukraine has been in giving their military second and third generation weapons/munitions that probably weren't otherwise going to be used in combat, and a lot of which would eventually be scrapped.

What is the taxpayers' interest to leave this stuff rusting away in storage?
Click to expand...
I think they'd prefer sell it then give it away
 
  • Like
Reactions: InVOLuntary and VAVol85
#84,413
#84,413
CagleMtnVol said:
Yeah, I was like is that a threat?
Click to expand...
I thought it was a threat...that's why he got the response he did...what's. POTUS supposed to do to a public threat?? And Vance was correct...it shouldn't have been litigated in front of the public...I don't think Zelensky wants peace, he want to keep power and money and continuous war does that for him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CagleMtnVol and InVOLuntary
#84,414
#84,414
hog88 said:
😂
Click to expand...
laugh it up, but we've gone from the greatest superpower the world has ever known to celebrating our cic and his veep punking the president of the mighty superpower... Ukraine

we've become pathetic and our hegemony is entering its nadir.
 
#84,415
#84,415
Velo Vol said:
A majority of our aid to Ukraine has been in giving their military second and third generation weapons/munitions that probably weren't otherwise going to be used in combat, and a lot of which would eventually be scrapped.

What is the taxpayers' interest to leave this stuff, already paid for, rusting away in storage?
Click to expand...
A great deal of what the Russians use is like 8th+ generation which they may or may not have been refurbished. Most of the shells were used in 2022 or so...it's all about production.

Answer, to pull it out when you need it in case of war. Heck, they refurbished blown up equipment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: InVOLuntary
#84,420
#84,420
GAVol said:
lol… people conveniently leave that part out. I have no doubt Vance was ready with something, but it seemed more like an if/then proposition in case Zelensky started grandstanding.
Click to expand...
Its like everyone forgot the last 1-2 weeks. Vance was ready because they are sick of the horseshit. 😂




A news conference between Zelenskyy and Trump’s Ukraine envoy is canceled as tension rise



They lost the war, the midget was warned multiple times. He basically needed to take the knee and say he was ready for peace or there was no reason to come. He went the other way. 😂
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tnslim1, CagleMtnVol and InVOLuntary
#84,421
#84,421
volfanhill said:
Worse than slavery
Worse than civil rights issues
Worse than interment camps
Worse than intentionally killing US citizens without due process
Worse than the needless wars by Bush and Obama

Could go on and on


You really are a clown
Click to expand...


You are right, I should have limited that to diplomatic interaction.
 
#84,422
#84,422
Carl Pickens said:
Zelensky got a little too big for his Baby Gap britches and insulted the Pres and VP.
The “and you have nice ocean and don’t feel it, but you will in the future” comment was an outrageously stupid thing to say in that situation.
Im surprised no one interrupted and asked “what the hell did you just say”?
Click to expand...


He was, correctly, warning that Russia won't stop at Ukraine.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BeardedVol
#84,425
#84,425
lawgator1 said:
He was, correctly, warning that Russia won't stop at Ukraine.
Click to expand...

Europe is next but it will Europeans fighting Europeans, see my comments from 2022.

You could always join up? (they never join up)
Join the Brave

First you say Russia will be lucky to survive, now the Russians are going to keep going - super soldiers. 😂 😂 😂 😂

War in Ukraine 2022

Given Russia's mounting losses, increasing international military support of Ukraine, the rapidly declining morale of Russian military, and now the whole thing politically backfiring on him, do we think Putin will resort to some kind of WMD to try to turn it around all at once?
Click to expand...
War in Ukraine 2022

Its rapidly getting to the point where Putin's only chance to even physically survive this debacle is some sort of withdrawal from all of Ukraine, with Putin leaving power in a reasonably brief time, and guaranteed some sort of protection. Otherwise, as Russia keeps losing men and equipment, he will find himself invited off the planet by his own folks.
Click to expand...
c79c9450-ba39-44a0-be2b-0f7be80c2078_text.gif


You don't remember saying all this?

As far as I know, the Ukrainians are winning. (that is what they told me in this thread, when did that stop?)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: InVOLuntary and Pepe_Silvia
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top