President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[85SugarVol]

Yep. This is the correct take away. Anything else is you being partisan hack.

It was all just so bad.

 

[Carl Pickens]

It was a terrible statement from Zelensky, a horrible misstep.

I disagree that Trump handled it well. He went full Trump, and it got wild… in the Oval Office. Nobody came off looking “good” imo.

Perhaps he didn’t, but I don’t have a problem with it. He deserved to be slapped down IMO…..I’d say the same if had been Biden

 

[volfanhill]

Perhaps he didn’t, but I don’t have a problem with it. He deserved to be slapped down IMO

For what? Trying to save his country from the abyss? It's crazy to me the amount of shat that's talked about him. Zero proof he's stolen money. The people who claim he's a coke head are morons.

 

[Carl Pickens]

For what? Trying to save his country from the abyss? It's crazy to me the amount of shat that's talked about him. Zero proof he's stolen money. The people who claim he's a coke head are morons.

I’ve not heard the coke head remarks and I’m not considering the stolen money accusations either.
The only thing I’m talking about are the comments he made…..

 

[LSU-SIU]

For what? Trying to save his country from the abyss? It's crazy to me the amount of shat that's talked about him. Zero proof he's stolen money. The people who claim he's a coke head are morons.

He put them there by shutting down negotiations in 2022, further by not engaging in diplomacy since then....including today.

He isn't saving that country, he wants them to die.

 

[Carl Pickens]

 

[DC_Vol]

For what? Trying to save his country from the abyss? It's crazy to me the amount of shat that's talked about him. Zero proof he's stolen money. The people who claim he's a coke head are morons.

I don’t know about him being a coke head or crooked, but he is without a doubt and impetuous idiot.

He was too dumb to understand or too proud to stomach a public facing event that was meant to draw all parties to the negotiating table to resolve the conflict that is killing boatloads of his citizens.

He went rouge and undermined the entire effort. He knew what he was supposed to be there for. If he didn’t want to play ball he shouldn’t have insisted on a public event in Washington to play games. It was an insult to the efforts being made trying to end the conflict.

Supreme stupidity. Trying to couch his behavior as some heroic effort to save his country is a huge whiff.

 

[Orange_Crush]

biden-aide-admits-admin-was-gaslighting-americans-by-dismissing-health-concerns-report-02-28-2025

well there it is to all you reality deniers..

WASHINGTON (TNND) — A former senior White House aide told Puck News Thursday the administration was “gaslighting” Americans by dismissing concerns over former President Joe Biden's mental and physical health.

There were actually people who didn't believe this?

 

[rekinhavoc]

Or both.

Fair enough.

 

[rekinhavoc]

I don’t know about him being a coke head or crooked, but he is without a doubt and impetuous idiot.

He was too dumb to understand or too proud to stomach a public facing event that was meant to draw all parties to the negotiating table to resolve the conflict that is killing boatloads of his citizens.

He went rouge and undermined the entire effort. He knew what he was supposed to be there for. If he didn’t want to play ball he shouldn’t have insisted on a public event in Washington to play games. It was an insult to the efforts being made trying to end the conflict.

Supreme stupidity. Trying to couch his behavior as some heroic effort to save his country is a huge whiff.

I don't think he had any intention on signing the mineral deal.

He took his shot in front of the media hoping to score sympathy points with the American people.

Grandstanding with Trump was a mistake.

I think he will be removed or assassinated by the Ukrainian people and they will be back to make a deal they desperately need.

 

[Majors]

I don't think he had any intention on signing the mineral deal.

He took his shot in front of the media hoping to score sympathy points with the American people.

Grandstanding with Trump was a mistake.

I think he will be removed or assassinated by the Ukrainian people and they will be back to make a deal they desperately need.

Lesson learned, don’t debate Trump live. It doesn’t end well for those who take a shot at the champ.

 

[Majors]

biden-aide-admits-admin-was-gaslighting-americans-by-dismissing-health-concerns-report-02-28-2025

well there it is to all you reality deniers..

WASHINGTON (TNND) — A former senior White House aide told Puck News Thursday the administration was “gaslighting” Americans by dismissing concerns over former President Joe Biden's mental and physical health.

Those protecting Biden needed the paycheck. Now they are off the payroll and speaking up after the fact. Those like Jake Tapper cant cover for him but now has a release date for his book discussing covering up the decline.

 

[GAVol]

And could we stop pretending this was all a Trump ego trip designed to kiss Putin’s ass? We’ve seen Zelensky’s act before.

Biden lost his temper on a call with Zelenskyy when Ukraine's leader asked for more aid

Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in military assistance when the Ukrainian president started listing all the additional help he needed.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[rekinhavoc]

What the Heck Was Zelensky Thinking?

redstate.com

"This was a colossal miscalculation by Zelensky. Trump has never accepted the idea that Ukraine is doing the United States a favor by fighting Russia as a way of justifying unlimited aid. Perhaps Joe Biden found that argument persuasive, but Joe Biden is not in office anymore. Russia is not going to invade the United States or any NATO country (if for no other reason than a lack of capability), and using that as a type of blackmail for support was never going to play.

Here's the deal. Fairness or being "right" doesn't factor into a situation like this. Zelensky is in a desperate spot, and Trump had largely acquiesced to a very Ukraine-friendly deal over the last few days (including lowering the repayment amount to just $90 billion). The negotiations were over. All the Ukrainian president had to do was show up, shake hands, smile for the cameras, and sign the deal. His attempt to lecture Trump and Vance for the cameras was an ego move that he didn't have the leverage to pull off.

Trump does not care about the press. You aren't going to bully him into a certain point of view by appealing to CNN or any other legacy news outlet. Whether that's fair or not is irrelevant. What's relevant is the reality of the moment, and Zelensky chose to pick a fight with Vance when it was completely unnecessary. Liz Cheney and David Frum may do performative outrage online, but they are not going to cut a check to Ukraine. Zelensky needed this deal and chose to blow it up for no good reason. What was the point of him even coming to the White House if he was going to publicly denounce any possible ceasefire?

What this really comes down to is how Zelensky handled this. If he has issues with Trump negotiating a deal with Putin, then he should express those behind closed doors, which is something Vance pointed out during the exchange. By trying to embarrass and undermine the U.S. president in public, he destroyed an already frayed relationship. In doing so, he might have cost his country its war."

 

[Orange_Crush]

I don't think he had any intention on signing the mineral deal.

He took his shot in front of the media hoping to score sympathy points with the American people.

Grandstanding with Trump was a mistake.

I think he will be removed or assassinated by the Ukrainian people and they will be back to make a deal they desperately need.

Reading the reports that had led up to this, and then watching that circus unfold, it looked pretty plain that Z just wanted his shot to play politics in front of the American and World audience, and the admin would have none of it.

I suspect there is a faction that put Z up to that, thinking that the anti-Trump media could and would use it to pressure the administration. But if that's the case they didn't figure that (a) Trump isn't cowed by the media, and (2) his approval ratings are high and the American public overall doesn't trust the media.

 

[Orange_Crush]

What the Heck Was Zelensky Thinking?

redstate.com

"This was a colossal miscalculation by Zelensky. Trump has never accepted the idea that Ukraine is doing the United States a favor by fighting Russia as a way of justifying unlimited aid. Perhaps Joe Biden found that argument persuasive, but Joe Biden is not in office anymore. Russia is not going to invade the United States or any NATO country (if for no other reason than a lack of capability), and using that as a type of blackmail for support was never going to play.

Here's the deal. Fairness or being "right" doesn't factor into a situation like this. Zelensky is in a desperate spot, and Trump had largely acquiesced to a very Ukraine-friendly deal over the last few days (including lowering the repayment amount to just $90 billion). The negotiations were over. All the Ukrainian president had to do was show up, shake hands, smile for the cameras, and sign the deal. His attempt to lecture Trump and Vance for the cameras was an ego move that he didn't have the leverage to pull off.

Trump does not care about the press. You aren't going to bully him into a certain point of view by appealing to CNN or any other legacy news outlet. Whether that's fair or not is irrelevant. What's relevant is the reality of the moment, and Zelensky chose to pick a fight with Vance when it was completely unnecessary. Liz Cheney and David Frum may do performative outrage online, but they are not going to cut a check to Ukraine. Zelensky needed this deal and chose to blow it up for no good reason. What was the point of him even coming to the White House if he was going to publicly denounce any possible ceasefire?

What this really comes down to is how Zelensky handled this. If he has issues with Trump negotiating a deal with Putin, then he should express those behind closed doors, which is something Vance pointed out during the exchange. By trying to embarrass and undermine the U.S. president in public, he destroyed an already frayed relationship. In doing so, he might have cost his country its war."

he may have cost his country... its country.

 

[n_huffhines]

And could we stop pretending this was all a Trump ego trip designed to kiss Putin’s ass? We’ve seen Zelensky’s act before.

Biden lost his temper on a call with Zelenskyy when Ukraine's leader asked for more aid

Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in military assistance when the Ukrainian president started listing all the additional help he needed.

www.nbcnews.com

No way that's true. Potatos don't have tempers

 

[Orangeburst]

Dont forget this is No Spend Day!

 

[whodeycin85]

I see why Zelensky/Ukraine are oved by leftist, they both feel entitled to other people money because that person has more. No appreciation, just expectations of receiving free money

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Trump made a great move putting this on camera yesterday. Can you imagine what the liberal press would have been saying if this was not exposed live and on camera.

Hope Trump hits it long and straight today. Weather looks great in Palm Beach.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Dont forget this is No Spend Day!

Thought that was yesterday?? Darn it!!

 

[just bob]

Dont forget this is No Spend Day!

I believe the National Happiness Day was yesterday.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

I see why Zelensky/Ukraine are oved by leftist, they both feel entitled to other people money because that person has more. No appreciation, just expectations of receiving free money

Well said.

 

[85SugarVol]

And could we stop pretending this was all a Trump ego trip designed to kiss Putin’s ass? We’ve seen Zelensky’s act before.

Biden lost his temper on a call with Zelenskyy when Ukraine's leader asked for more aid

Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in military assistance when the Ukrainian president started listing all the additional help he needed.

www.nbcnews.com

The American people were being quite generous, and his administration and the U.S. military were working hard to help Ukraine, he [Biden] said, raising his voice, and Zelenskyy could show a little more gratitude.

 

[hog88]

For what? Trying to save his country from the abyss? It's crazy to me the amount of shat that's talked about him. Zero proof he's stolen money. The people who claim he's a coke head are morons.

But is he really? Has there been any movement on the front? Has Ukraine made any progress in defeating Russia?