Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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LSU-SIU said:
Everything should be on the table and looked at/reviewed. This just appears to be the quick and dirty part of it.

They're like.... shouldn't we cancel the SpaceX contracts. I'm like.... okay why don't we look at all that. Heck, I'm fine with getting rid of all of NASA. (they think they are being rational and they actually believe they are hurting people's feelings)😂
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Quick and dirty will get you to 80%. The remaining 20% is the hard stuff, revisions/fixes, and perfection. This is how effective business works. Fail fast (as in, make the mistakes, fix them quick, don't make them again). It's really not a big deal and it's exciting to see it in government for once.
 
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NashVol11 said:
This stuff hasn't been standard practice for decades. He just makes things up and people cheerlead it

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I would say he is correct, its just matter of how correct he is. Mostly small potatoes, there are bigger amounts... the stuff going to Eastern Europe is going to get people on the end of rope over there. The years and decades of the U.S. funding terrorist groups has probably gotten Americans killed, I have mentioned my cousin got blown up in Syria (he's fine).
 
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McDad said:
Sure it has. Spouting off lies is DC SOP. It's only different when the lies are particularly irritating to you because you harbor a grudge against the liar.
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Misleading info is certainly SOP, and most people know to distrust politicians as a result. "This will be the last election" is purely made up but the skepticism of politicians vanishes for Elon
 
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NashVol11 said:
Misleading info is certainly SOP, and most people know to distrust politicians as a result. "This will be the last election" is purely made up but the skepticism of politicians vanishes for Elon
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It does? You've seen surveys and polling data which indicates people aren't skeptical of him?
 
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NashVol11 said:
Misleading info is certainly SOP, and most people know to distrust politicians as a result. "This will be the last election" is purely made up but the skepticism of politicians vanishes for Elon
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You don't have to trust him. Nobody is asking your to trust him. Nobody really cares if you trust him.

He seems more trustworthy than what you had in there. I don't even know who was running the country. Why do you care now? 😂
 
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McDad said:
It does? You've seen surveys and polling data which indicates people aren't skeptical of him?
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When a request for evidence (which everyone should agree on) is met with "Lol they're just SQUIRMING because they LOVE CORRUPTION" repeatedly then no, people are not skeptical; multiple posters in this very thread have said that if Elon tweeted that we were spending $17B teaching dolphins to play checkers, they would just believe him
 
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So, I had a thought about the Dems just now, and their hissy fits about "threats" to Democracy and Constitutional "Crises" etc...

The American people elected Donald Trump based on his campaign promises, which he is literally performing exactly as he promised. Now, apparently, the Dems are accusing he and Elon of a "hostile takeover" of the government.

Anyone see yet where I'm going?

Why does it have to be "hostile", if the Dems respect Democracy and the rule of law? Shouldn't they actually be... I don't know... HELPING the will of the people and those we elected to implement it?
 
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NashVol11 said:
When a request for evidence (which everyone should agree on) is met with "Lol they're just SQUIRMING because they LOVE CORRUPTION" repeatedly then no people are not skeptical, multiple posters in this thread have said that if he said we were spending $17B teaching dolphins to play checkers they would just believe him
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NashVol11 said:
When a request for evidence (which everyone should agree on) is met with "Lol they're just SQUIRMING because they LOVE CORRUPTION" repeatedly then no people are not skeptical, multiple posters in this thread have said that if he said we were spending $17B teaching dolphins to play checkers they would just believe him
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Nobody agrees what evidence is on a forum. We're all still wondering why you are melting? There is no reason for a grown adult to be melting about any of this.
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What I'm curious about is if they have things like emails, etc. linking certain PWS's with task orders, purchase orders, contracts, etc. that demonstrate that this information is actually accurate. The media can say X didn't exist, but if someone on the project is doing X under the funding umbrella of the contract...

This happens often as well. I'm inclined to believe Elon has more data than I do.
 
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NashVol11 said:
When a request for evidence (which everyone should agree on) is met with "Lol they're just SQUIRMING because they LOVE CORRUPTION" repeatedly then no, people are not skeptical; multiple posters in this thread have said that if he said we were spending $17B teaching dolphins to play checkers, they would just believe him
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The sample size here is really too small to make broad generalizations though. The other side believed Biden was mentally fit. Every issue, every confirmation hearing, every Congressional investigation is like this. Misleading info which ardent supporters proclaim as gospel is the norm.

I'm surprised so many buy in to the political soap opera.
 
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NashVol11 said:
This stuff hasn't been standard practice for decades. He just makes things up and people cheerlead it


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The Reuters thing also wasn't even based on a DOGE "finding," some Mario Nawfal misinformation idiot just speculated on Twitter and Elon fell for it
 
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NashVol11 said:
The Reuters thing also wasn't even based on a DOGE "finding," some Mario Nawfal misinformation idiot just speculated on Twitter and Elon fell for it
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What is the melt about? I would say he is still correct, although its probably small potatoes.

You and Elon having a battle online and you think you're winning? 🤷‍♂️ EDS?
 
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jwells said:
Is it? They've given little evidence of the fraud, they're currently cutting deep into programs they don't understand, and so far many of their smoking gun claims have been proven false. They're not actually transparent and they're not trained to even do this sort of work. More, it's looking to be wholly unconstitutional. Congress appropriates funds. Unelected appointees don't get to cancel appropriations.

I'm not sure how all these Republican-supported programs are so rife with, uh...Democrat corruption?
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Because, uh...Dems have been running things the last four years and were soundly voted out. And no one has been minding the store since, uh...ever. Now form is being to be put to the void.

Auditing isn't rocket surgery. All agencies fall under the executive, and it's quite far from "looking to be wholly unconstitutional" simply because the left is making court cases of it while shrieking 'death of democracy!!!!'.
 
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McDad said:
The sample size here is really too small to make broad generalizations though. The other side believed Biden was mentally fit. Every issue, every confirmation hearing, every Congressional investigation is like this. Misleading info which ardent supporters proclaim as gospel is the norm.

I'm surprised so many buy in to the political soap opera.
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No, I agree in general that the parties are different sides of the same coin and neither is better than the other, but the head of an "agency" falling for and regurgitating the dumbest misinformation there is and trying to create "HUGE SCANDALS" because he doesn't know the difference between Reuters and Thomson Reuters (or between Gaza and Africa) is not some consistent norm. MTG might fall for some of this stuff but no one takes her seriously
 
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NashVol11 said:
No, I agree in general that the parties are different sides of the same coin and neither is better than the other, but the head of an "agency" falling for and regurgitating the dumbest misinformation there is and trying to create "HUGE SCANDALS" because he doesn't know the difference between Reuters and Thomson Reuters (or between Gaza and Africa) is not some consistent norm. MTG might fall for some of this stuff but no one takes her seriously
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Enjoy your windmills.
 
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utvolpj said:
The Chinese have several really nice ev at a much lower price point. They've also worked on swappable batteries. None of that is allowed to be sold in the US

Elon even said Tesla had no intention of production less expensive options.
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So having Tesla, Ford, GM, Toyota, and Nissan all competing in the EV market is preventing competition? Personally, I hate Chinese products and think it’s bad policy to strengthen our enemy buy growing their economy / war chest. JMO
 
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