Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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NashVol11 said:
If there is "countless evidence" and you're busy, then it should be quicker to find evidence than to repeatedly reply without it. No?
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So you really believe that all the specific examples thus far provided of nonsense, wasteful, and fraudulent money funneled through the USAID are fabricated? They have promised a full presentation of the findings/evidence. You're going to hang your hat on there being none, which would make Elon a liar, costing him the trust of the people and his position in the administration? That's a bold strategy.

Tell you what: if it comes to pass that there is not sufficient evidence when it is supposed to be presented, I will apologize and admit that I've been duped. If the evidence IS provided, then you admit you are a deranged sheep whose mind has been warped by TDS.

Remembering your positions during the CV19 nonsense, I know where we should place our bets.
 
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TheDeeble said:
That's something I would like to see someone ask Anderson Cooper or any other MSM talking head journalist. I like to hear you're expecting proof for claims made, but why were those same standards not applied to you and everyone else in the MSM for the past 10 years. There was like a good 1-2 years where an "anonymous source" was all that was needed for the MSM to convict. But where was the proof to the public? It was just words.
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My favorite was the media labeling every person they found parroting their viewpoint as an expert.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
So you really believe that all the specific examples thus far provided of nonsense, wasteful, and fraudulent money funneled through the USAID are fabricated? They have promised a full presentation of the findings/evidence. You're going to hang your hat on there being none, which would make Elon a liar, costing him the trust of the people and his position in the administration? That's a bold strategy.

Tell you what: if it comes to pass that there is not sufficient evidence when it is supposed to be presented, I will apologize and admit that I've been duped. If the evidence IS provided, then you admit you are a deranged sheep whose mind has been warped by TDS.

Remembering your positions during the CV19 nonsense, I know where we should place our bets.
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"If it comes to pass" lmao. You said there was countless evidence already provided, now you're saying the evidence is coming later. Don't hurt yourself moving those goalposts
kiddiedoc said:
You are too stubborn or deranged to accept the countless evidence presented over the last 2 weeks
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Where is it? Post it. You've spent all this time responding and still nothing
 
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NashVol11 said:
"If it comes to pass" lmao. You said there was countless evidence already provided, now you're saying the evidence is coming later. Don't hurt yourself moving those goalposts

Where is it? Post it. You've spent all this time responding and still nothing
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I'm tending to my post-op pup after a full day of flu season. Forgive me if I don't have the energy for childish games.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Esposa and I were talking the other day about used car EV market. What in the hell do you do when you have an EV that's a few years old and needs $15 grand or so in new batteries... and everything else is still worth FAR less than the cost of new batteries?
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I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there is a lot of misconception about EV batteries. Are you familiar with battery life and warranties?

For example: Tesla warranties their battery to 70%+ capacity at 8 years/100-150k miles, depending on model. Keep in mind there is no transmission, oil changes, belts, alternator, etc service in that interval. Tires and brakes only.

Obviously, EVs are not for everyone, specifically if you travel long distances on a daily basis. I am 100% opposed to any mandates on them. For most people, though, they are a very cost-effective/saving vehicle that can also provide supercar performance, especially with the higher trim levels.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there is a lot of misconception about EV batteries. Are you familiar with battery life and warranties?

For example: Tesla warranties their battery to 70%+ capacity at 8 years/100-150k miles, depending on model. Keep in mind there is no transmission, oil changes, belts, alternator, etc service in that interval. Tires and brakes only.

Obviously, EVs are not for everyone, specifically if you travel long distances on a daily basis. I am 100% opposed to any mandates on them. For most people, though, they are a very cost-effective/saving vehicle that can also provide supercar performance, especially with the higher trim levels.
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My Ford is also 8yr/100k. I'll get a new one before it costs me money to replace
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
The taxpayers don't own Mar-a-Lago or any other Trump hotels and resorts
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So……if trillions in fraud and waste are eliminated. And the value of the dollar increases instead of decreases over the next few terms…..and the financial requirements to run the system are significantly decreased…..then who is on the receiving end of the benefit?

I’m guessing it’s the people who pay in to run the system.
What do we call those people again?
 
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utvolpj said:
My Ford is also 8yr/100k. I'll get a new one before it costs me money to replace
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My 99 f250 work truck has 650k miles on it. It runs like a champ without any major overhauls. Not long ago I figured out that it’s cost me 2k a year (roughly 53k total) to maintain and own in its lifetime. (Not including fuel) if we add in fuel it’s still going to way cheaper than any electric vehicle ever.

If cost over the long term is the concern then keeping a vehicle properly maintained and keeping it forever is the answer. (That doesn’t work with an electric vehicle)
 
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kiddiedoc said:
So you really believe that all the specific examples thus far provided of nonsense, wasteful, and fraudulent money funneled through the USAID are fabricated? They have promised a full presentation of the findings/evidence. You're going to hang your hat on there being none, which would make Elon a liar, costing him the trust of the people and his position in the administration? That's a bold strategy.

Tell you what: if it comes to pass that there is not sufficient evidence when it is supposed to be presented, I will apologize and admit that I've been duped. If the evidence IS provided, then you admit you are a deranged sheep whose mind has been warped by TDS.

Remembering your positions during the CV19 nonsense, I know where we should place our bets.
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Musk is a demonstrated liar through and through. This isn't even debatable. He's been lying at Tesla for years. The better question is "why would he stop lying?"
 
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