President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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LSU-SIU said:
I would think the lesson should be that one should attempt to hone one's critical thinking skills and obtain some common sense. Promoting a face diaper, social distancing, 15-days to flatten the curve, etc. are all moronic in nature... persuading people to be morons should never be a lesson.
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I’m sure you have noticed this with your exceptional perspicacity, but the people who still feel the need to bring up COVID all the damn time usually have an exceptionally hard time admitting they are wrong, have a hard time accepting that their “common sense” isn't so exceptional as to allow them to know all the things, and/or can’t fathom that there are some things they don’t and will never know.

The question of whether/how much masks, quarantine, and social distancing helped (if at all) seems unknowable to me, given how polarizing it became. I’m not about to be persuaded by “trust me, bro” from some angry dude on his 3rd or 4th account on an anonymous message board and the research probably won’t ever be conclusive enough.

I’m fine with that.

Like @walkenvol said, it was a situation that was fraught with uncertainty. Common sense said to seek qualified opinions about how to take precautions. Critical thinking said the risk of the suggested precautions was nonexistent, but the reward was potentially significant, which is why they were adopted all over the world.

I don’t have a need for anybody else to validate that and I don’t understand people who need to have everybody to agree with them so badly that they bring it up all the time and lash out and call people a moron when they don’t.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I’m sure you have noticed this with your exceptional perspicacity, but the people who still feel the need to bring up COVID all the damn time usually have an exceptionally hard time admitting they are wrong, have a hard time accepting that their “common sense” isn't so exceptional as to allow them to know all the things, and/or can’t fathom that there are some things they don’t and will never know.

The question of whether/how much masks, quarantine, and social distancing helped (if at all) seems unknowable to me, given how polarizing it became. I’m not about to be persuaded by “trust me, bro” from some angry dude on his 3rd or 4th account on an anonymous message board and the research probably won’t ever be conclusive enough.

I’m fine with that.

Like @walkenvol said, it was a situation that was fraught with uncertainty. Common sense said to seek qualified opinions about how to take precautions. Critical thinking said the risk of the suggested precautions was nonexistent, but the reward was potentially significant, which is why they were adopted all over the world.

I don’t have a need for anybody else to validate that and I don’t understand people who need to have everybody to agree with them so badly that they bring it up all the time and lash out and call people a moron when they don’t.
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That is the problem, I agree there.

research probably won’t ever be conclusive enough
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There isn't conclusive research that specifies whether wearing two socks on your dogs front foot will stop covid either. No mask was going to stop you from getting covid. You could have been wearing a full chem gear and you were still going to get covid.
 
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hog88 said:
It made sense to stay away from large groups of people, wash hands often, isolate if feeling sick. It didn't make sense that WalMart could be open but the local Ace Hardware couldn't, it didn't make sense for Pepsi bottling plants to be designated essential while vehicle battery plants were designated non-essential. So once the "experts" threw out common sense how could anyone listen to them?
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I remember my wife fussing at me for going the wrong way in the cereal aisle at Walmart. "Can't you see the arrows!?!?" she said. 🤣. She's a nurse, so the hospital was constantly on her and she was constantly on me about getting the shot. I didn't and I didn't let our kids get it. Like you said @hog88, the common sense factor was non existent.

I also recall all the long walks back to my truck because security said I had to have a mask to go in. 2020 was so stoopid.

I told a friend of mine, when things started shutting down, that the dems were going to steal the election. Trump was calling it the "China virus" early on and the news was calling him racist. Trump was right about China.


The highlight for me in 2020..... I lost my job on the 3rd Friday in March and I bought a motorcycle on the 3rd Saturday in March. I put around 5000 miles on it that year. I literally felt like I owned the roads because nobody else was out. Sidenote: that was the only year that I've not almost been hit by a vehicle.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That is the problem, I agree there.




There isn't conclusive research that specifies whether wearing two socks on your dogs front foot will stop covid either. No mask was going to stop you from getting covid. You could have been wearing a full chem gear and you were still going to get covid.
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Covid never was the big bad killer they made it out to be, it was to control us and it worked
 
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According to Brett Baier on Special Report, A bunch of FBI agents and Federal prosecutors are getting canned or forced into retirement. All that are getting their employment ended were involved in either working in prosecutions of Trump, or prosecuting people for January 6th. I didn't see a link for this on Fox yet. SIAP
 
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walkenvol said:
Sounds like a perspective from hindsight. At the time I was confused and seeking guidance as were most everyone I knew. Had 4 people in my circle die from it. Dismissing the medical folks in authority as quacks at the time was only shared by a few. Following the advice from the CDC verses following the advice from a vocal minority on social media seemed very risky at the time.

Again, we now have hindsight to shape our opinions as to the failures / successes of the early pandemic decisions.
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Trump haters will continue to rub his nose in the mistakes. In four years, let's see if he learned from those mistakes. So far I am getting the impression that he did.
 
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TN Ribs said:
No, you hate it when people use pronouns because you are insecure and soft. That’s very obvious.
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You got that totally backwards. The people that are soft and insecure don't know if they are a male or female. They're insecure and confused. I know what I am. A male. Anybody that can't define what they are is confused and totally ignorant. Anybody that tries to force another person to used a different pronoun is an a$$. Just your kind of people.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That is the problem, I agree there.




There isn't conclusive research that specifies whether wearing two socks on your dogs front foot will stop covid either. No mask was going to stop you from getting covid. You could have been wearing a full chem gear and you were still going to get covid.
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Cool story, bro.
 
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LouderVol said:
its certainly not focused on making it great. its focused on making it one person's version of what they want. its all about Trump's America, the fact that most of you are unwilling to critique him on anything meaningful proves that its about Trump and not about America.

Even in the week + there has been plenty of not great going on.
great isn't tariffing every nation.
great isn't throwing out political hackery during emergencies. Twice now, CA fires, and the plane wreck.
great isn't kicking veterans out of the military for no other reason than they are trans.
shutting down all the grants and programs has already been shut down.
having a quota for deportations is not great in my book.

depending on what else Trump decides to roll out there are plenty more not great things coming our way under Trump.
based on his first term I doubt we actually get a balanced budget, and all these cuts by Doge will be offset by growth elsewhere.
throwing out threats of violence over Canada, Greenland, and Panama is the opposite of ending wars.
I have very serious doubts about the long term efficacy of his FP in general.
I have very serious doubts about his decision making when it comes to the economy.
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In all of that diatribe, you are not looking at the big picture.
 
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utvolpj said:
They were being blamed for killing grandma by daring to attending school. They simply weren't getting sick and yet schools were still being shut down. The data was just not there to support the efforts. Like louder said, the thread still exists of your curious about how early many of us took our stance. I'm just glad to have lived in Florida during that
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Absolutely. The common sense state
 
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