The Trump Effect

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So far it seems Congressional Republicans are content to allow Trump to govern by Executive Order.
I am on record here with being very uncomfortable with that type of governance. That is simply electoral monarchy.

While many of Trump's EOs have seemed to be popular with Americans of diverse backgrounds, I believe the Republicans are missing an opportunity while they have legislative majorities if they leave it at that.

What can be done by the pen can be undone by the pen.

If I were the Democrats, every time Trump signs an EO, I would draft the opposite. It would be ready and waiting in the Oval when, inevitably, a "D" sits behind that desk again. It may be a while until that happens, but it will happen.

Congress should act like it is Congress. My main lasting Trump Effect takeaway so far is disappointment that positive changes being made (fiscal accountability - finally!) can be so flippantly discarded, and that negative changes (loss of health care research funding) can be so easily enacted. This isn't a criticism of Trump; I expect Executives to push the limits of their power; it is a criticism of Congress, whose job it is to check that executive power and enact legislation. Our system is so, so broken.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
So far it seems Congressional Republicans are content to allow Trump to govern by Executive Order.
I am on record here with being very uncomfortable with that type of governance. That is simply electoral monarchy.

While many of Trump's EOs have seemed to be popular with Americans of diverse backgrounds, I believe the Republicans are missing an opportunity while they have legislative majorities if they leave it at that.

What can be done by the pen can be undone by the pen.

If I were the Democrats, every time Trump signs an EO, I would draft the opposite. It would be ready and waiting in the Oval when, inevitably, a "D" sits behind that desk again. It may be a while until that happens, but it will happen.

Congress should act like it is Congress. My main lasting Trump Effect takeaway so far is disappointment that positive changes being made (fiscal accountability - finally!) can be so flippantly discarded, and that negative changes (loss of health care research funding) can be so easily enacted. This isn't a criticism of Trump; I expect Executives to push the limits of their power; it is a criticism of Congress, whose job it is to check that executive power and enact legislation. Our system is so, so broken.
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There’s a lot of truth here. The Republican Congress needs to get as motivated and productive as the executive branch. Gets some bills on the president’s desk now!
 
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Ritzwatch said:
So far it seems Congressional Republicans are content to allow Trump to govern by Executive Order.
I am on record here with being very uncomfortable with that type of governance. That is simply electoral monarchy.

While many of Trump's EOs have seemed to be popular with Americans of diverse backgrounds, I believe the Republicans are missing an opportunity while they have legislative majorities if they leave it at that.

What can be done by the pen can be undone by the pen.

If I were the Democrats, every time Trump signs an EO, I would draft the opposite. It would be ready and waiting in the Oval when, inevitably, a "D" sits behind that desk again. It may be a while until that happens, but it will happen.

Congress should act like it is Congress. My main lasting Trump Effect takeaway so far is disappointment that positive changes being made (fiscal accountability - finally!) can be so flippantly discarded, and that negative changes (loss of health care research funding) can be so easily enacted. This isn't a criticism of Trump; I expect Executives to push the limits of their power; it is a criticism of Congress, whose job it is to check that executive power and enact legislation. Our system is so, so broken.
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Once Trump's EOs rid the American taxpayers of these onerous and worthless organizations, any leftist president that reinstates them will be committing political suicide for the party. But fear not, with nutjobs like David Hogg as a high up in the DNC, unless the Republicans are totally inept (which IS very possible) a democrat shouldn't be able to hold the White House until well past 2060
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Once Trump's EOs rid the American taxpayers of these onerous and worthless organizations, any leftist president that reinstates them will be committing political suicide for the party. But fear not, with nutjobs like David Hogg as a high up in the DNC, unless the Republicans are totally inept (which IS very possible) a democrat shouldn't be able to hold the White House until well past 2060
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I was told there will be no more elections if Trump won. . . 😂
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The problem with letting congress lead is zero would get done. The senate would filabuster everything and if it did get to a vote, the three republican idiots wouldn't vote for it.
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Do Murkowski Collins and whoever else ever vote for anything? 😂 They don’t even seem to vote for the ‘moderate’ things lmao
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The third stooge would be the turtle, Mitch McConnell. All.need to be primaried.
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With McConnell, I think he has a personal beef with Trump and he lets it cloud everything he does 😂 I think the other two have been doing that since they have been in Congress, so it has less to actually do with Trump 😂
 
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Ritzwatch said:
So far it seems Congressional Republicans are content to allow Trump to govern by Executive Order.
I am on record here with being very uncomfortable with that type of governance. That is simply electoral monarchy.

While many of Trump's EOs have seemed to be popular with Americans of diverse backgrounds, I believe the Republicans are missing an opportunity while they have legislative majorities if they leave it at that.

What can be done by the pen can be undone by the pen.

If I were the Democrats, every time Trump signs an EO, I would draft the opposite. It would be ready and waiting in the Oval when, inevitably, a "D" sits behind that desk again. It may be a while until that happens, but it will happen.

Congress should act like it is Congress. My main lasting Trump Effect takeaway so far is disappointment that positive changes being made (fiscal accountability - finally!) can be so flippantly discarded, and that negative changes (loss of health care research funding) can be so easily enacted. This isn't a criticism of Trump; I expect Executives to push the limits of their power; it is a criticism of Congress, whose job it is to check that executive power and enact legislation. Our system is so, so broken.
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The issue is that Congress gave a way a lot of its powers from 1890s - 1930s when they setup all these agencies and then delegated power to them. It is sometimes called the Fourth Branch of the Government. The President has more control over these agencies than Congress.

It is a little nerve racking. The only thing about a lot of Trump's EO is that they are basically temporary actions that won't have meaning in near future. However, it would be nice to get more Congressional involvement. Honestly, Republicans own the entire Gambit (every Federal Branch). I don't think a party has held this much power since the Democrats owned everything in WW2.

Another, perhaps thought, is that Trump may not trust all the Republicans in Congress to be on board which was an issue during his first term. Trump really isn't Republican. He systematically broke that party and it is looking like he may have now broken the Democratic Party as well. It is crazy the impact this has had on our system. The academic part of me is very intrigue to see how this all plays out.

I don't think Trump is that great but there is a part of me that does like seeing the government broke down. The original Democrat/Republican system had forgotten the American people and gotten bloated and corrupt. They created the conditions for Trump to emerge.
 
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