The George Floyd Monument

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TNVOLNAVY said:
Separate but equal? Segregation? Fentanyl dispensers at the base? A monument for convicted felons? So many questions.

The George Floyd Monument Project – Official Campaign Site

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Maybe Trump will have it taken down like Potato Head did with the Southern monuments
 
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508mikey said:
Maybe Trump will have it taken down like Potato Head did with the Southern monuments
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Cities choosing to take down their own Lost Cause monuments was their right. If wherever this statue is wants to do the same, it's their city.

But lets be real about the reasons many of those Confederate monuments were erected where they were. And remember that you, in East Tennessee, were in a pro-Union hotbed.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I read his entire autopsy report, paraglioma in the hip but no mention of cardiac tumor. Plenty of drugs though.
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a lot of talk on social media about autopsy report that says "antemortem blood was collected" at the HHC on 5/25/2020. Was Floyd still alive when he arrived at the hospital? Some say he was already deceased when arriving at the hospital, if so why is it listed as antemortem?

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jmacvols1 said:
a lot of talk on social media about autopsy report that says "antemortem blood was collected" at the HHC on 5/25/2020. Was Floyd still alive when he arrived at the hospital? Some say he was already deceased when arriving at the hospital, if so why is it listed as antemortem?

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I caught that too. This is so fishy.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I caught that too. This is so fishy.
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Thank you for your response.

Some on social media have said when Floyd was brought to the hospital, those in the ER started resuscitation efforts and it was during resuscitation efforts blood was collected. It was AFTER resuscitation efforts stopped, AFTER blood was collected, Floyd was THEN declared dead therefore they claim blood was collected antemortem. Is this possible, does it make sense or is it people trying to explain away the fishiness of this?

in your professional opinion, is it a big deal to Derek Chauvin's defense or does it not matter at all if Floyd arrived at the hospital dead or if he arrived alive?
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I caught that too. This is so fishy.
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So much of the trial was fishy. Multiple and somewhat contrasting autopsies. Chauvin's CO testifying that the neck restraint wasn't MPD policy*(or part of MPD instruction). A juror whose past affiliations seemingly contrasted with impartiality. Allowing impact statements from Floyd's family before a verdict. Politicians (even POTUS) publicly opined guilt during the trial. And on, and on......

I'm not saying each single incident cannot be plausibly explained with pedantic aCKshooAly logic...., but the sum of the parts was a show trial.

*Chauvin should have been charged with assault for not allowing an onlooker who identified herself as a medic to intercede. Because that's exactly what the documented instruction, calling for his use of a knee as a restraint, called for.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
So much of the trial was fishy. Multiple and somewhat contrasting autopsies. Chauvin's CO testifying that the neck restraint wasn't MPD policy*(or part of MPD instruction). A juror whose past affiliations seemingly contrasted with impartiality. Allowing impact statements from Floyd's family before a verdict. Politicians (even POTUS) publicly opined guilt during the trial. And on, and on......

I'm not saying each single incident cannot be plausibly explained with pedantic aCKshooAly logic...., but the sum of the parts was a show trial.

*Chauvin should have been charged with assault for not allowing an onlooker who identified herself as a medic to intercede. Because that's exactly what the documented instruction, calling for his use of a knee as a restraint, called for.
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I think I mentioned this at trial time. The manor in which George Floyd was removed from the scene was highly questionable. Police plopped him onto a gurney not strapped down, hustled him into ambulance and closed the doors and off they went.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
in your professional opinion, is it a big deal to Derek Chauvin's defense or does it not matter at all if Floyd arrived at the hospital dead or if he arrived alive?
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In my completely amateur opinion, it shouldn't have mattered much for Chauvin's defense. But, optics strongly sway a jury regardless.

I think the when/where Floyd died is circumstantial or corroborative evidence in regards to how/why he died.
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I think I mentioned this at trial time. The manor in which George Floyd was removed from the scene was highly questionable. Police plopped him onto a gurney not strapped down, hustled him into ambulance and closed the doors and off they went.
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Would you consider the EMT's or police primarily responsible for the nature of the exit as a whole?

I can certainly see calling it questionable. I wouldn't call it criminal.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
In my completely amateur opinion, it shouldn't have mattered much for Chauvin's defense. But, optics strongly sway a jury regardless.

I think the when/where Floyd died is circumstantial or corroborative evidence in regards to how/why he died.

Would you consider the EMT's or police primarily responsible for the nature of the exit as a whole?

I can certainly see calling it questionable. I wouldn't call it criminal.
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It was the police who put him in the bus, video showed no EMTS present.

Edit: I just watched the video again. 2 EMTS present they just looked like officers but no utility belt.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
In my completely amateur opinion, it shouldn't have mattered much for Chauvin's defense. But, optics strongly sway a jury regardless.

I think the when/where Floyd died is circumstantial or corroborative evidence in regards to how/why he died.

Would you consider the EMT's or police primarily responsible for the nature of the exit as a whole?

I can certainly see calling it questionable. I wouldn't call it criminal.
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Not criminal just skipping what you would normally see, then again, he wasn’t breathing. That tends to speed things up.
 
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Minneapolis and state leaders prepare for possible Derek Chauvin pardon

Multiple sources told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS that Gov. Tim Walz, the Minnesota National Guard, Mayor Jacob Frey and Hennepin County Sheriff Dawanna Witt have all been briefed on preparations for possible civil unrest if President Donald Trump pardons former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin...
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NurseGoodVol said:
I think I mentioned this at trial time. The manor in which George Floyd was removed from the scene was highly questionable. Police plopped him onto a gurney not strapped down, hustled him into ambulance and closed the doors and off they went.
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Chicken in..havent seen you or Reb in long time,
 
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