Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Visidog said:
This is correct. During the break, the offense has like 40 players on the field—that’s where there is room to get in a big circle and talk. It counts as a substitution for the defense because they can’t know which 11 will stay on. The refs are supposed to hold the snap like they would after a sub. They didn’t, and that is their mistake. Bama should have had time to sub.

But a player can’t run off and then back on. That’s on Bama, and was rightly flagged.

As for the whole flopping thing, that’s clearly a bad look. Even Bama fans are ashamed, and rightly so. I wonder if it should have been an unsportsmanlike flag under the rules as they are. I also wondered, watching in real time, if he flopped after the snap such that the play should have been allowed to continue.
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I wondered about an unsportsmanlike penalty as well- that was sort of the definition wasn’t it? It’s one thing for a player to hit the turf, but to be pushed into the field of play and down?? That’s a whole new line that was crossed.
 
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tyonthefly93 said:
Sure. I’m not saying he is on the hot seat, but that career advancement in this case probably won’t happen until you make that smaller school Uber successful. Can it happen? Sure. Is it likely to happen at this point in CFB? No. So, instead of going to a school with limited resources, limited fan buy in, and limited talent pool, why not stay a coordinator until a job at a big time school presents itself?
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Because some schools want to see you do it at the head coach position before hiring you at a P4 school. We went 8-4 last year after he left. If we did that with him as OC, then that would not have been a step up from the previous year. At some point, great football coaches succeed, and success is different at each place. Plus, Alex Golesh will have an OC job waiting for him at a P5 school if he doesn't get it done at USF.
 
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Forty nine years ago, on October 22, 1975, the World Football League went out of business. Aside from Larry King, the Seattle Seahawks and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, there are not many artifacts left from the league which had global plans but couldn’t keep teams afloat in American cities.

The concept behind the World Football League was simple. Start a league that would compete with the National Football League and then go global. The National Football League now has global aspirations but back in 1974 when the WFL started, the NFL was content with 26 teams, Monday Night Football and raking in television cash. The NFL was having problems with the players contractually and that rancor would eventually lead to players striking during a portion of training camp. The WFL succeeded in one area for NFL players, a bidding war broke out between the two leagues and about 60 NFL players signed WFL contracts although very few actually played in the new league.

One of the NFL’s responses to the new league was expansion. The NFL would eventually announce that Seattle and Tampa would enter the NFL in 1976 which closed off those two cities from the WFL.

The WFL did start but financial problems cropped up everywhere except in Memphis and barely finished the 1974 season.

The league did come back in 1975 but expenses overwhelmed the league and it folded. The owners of Birmingham and Memphis applied to join the NFL and were turned down. They sued the NFL for antitrust violations and lost. Some WFL players ended up in the NFL along with personnel people. Larry King was the voice of the Shreveport Steamers and is probably the best known of all WFL employees.

In 1974, the WFL did have a TV contract with Eddie Einhorn’s TVS television network which was more a group of stations signing for a product that a network. But the league failed to get on national TV in 1975.

The WFL, like two other renegade leagues of that era, the American Basketball Association and the World Hockey Association changed the American sports landscape bringing in new ideas. The established leagues co-opted some of those ideas. The WFL is a minor footnote in pro football history..................but great memories for me!

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Visidog said:
This is correct. During the break, the offense has like 40 players on the field—that’s where there is room to get in a big circle and talk. It counts as a substitution for the defense because they can’t know which 11 will stay on. The refs are supposed to hold the snap like they would after a sub. They didn’t, and that is their mistake. Bama should have had time to sub.

But a player can’t run off and then back on. That’s on Bama, and was rightly flagged.

As for the whole flopping thing, that’s clearly a bad look. Even Bama fans are ashamed, and rightly so. I wonder if it should have been an unsportsmanlike flag under the rules as they are. I also wondered, watching in real time, if he flopped after the snap such that the play should have been allowed to continue.
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I think the coach was annoyed too, he gave the assistant a perturbed look.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Sending a child to Basic and not hearing from them for months is a very unique experience. People try to compare it to sending a child off to college, I have done both and it is very different. When my son went to Benning it was almost like he died. No communication for almost five months. He went in at the peak of the Trump build up and was stuck in Reception for over a month.
What is your son's MOS?
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15T
 
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VolGee4 said:
It makes sense- just like a defense seeing if the punt team or the offense is coming on the field for a 4th and 1. However, the defense is able to match the offensive personnel, but why was Bama running a player off the field? That means they didn't like their matching and needed to change personnel, which makes the call a correct one. That's on Bama.
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True. However, by not holding the snap for substitution they put Bama in an almost untenable position. The refs call games in such a way that they can make all the mistakes they want with no repercussions, while penalizing the results of their mistakes.

They're the sports equivalent of Peter Griffin farting on the elevator and then blaming it on the only other person in the elevator.
 
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Upon further semantical evaluation, Dixieland Delight is not technically about Tennessee. It's about a girl. The setting is Tennessee.

It's not about the South or "Dixie." The "Dixieland Delight" is the girl, not the location.

Aka, he spent a fabulous evening in rural Tennessee with a Southern belle. Still our song. 0 relation to anywhere else in the South.
 
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SoilVol said:
Upon further semantical evaluation, Dixieland Delight is not technically about Tennessee. It's about a girl. The setting is Tennessee.

It's not about the South or "Dixie." The "Dixieland Delight" is the girl, not the location.

Aka, he spent a fabulous evening in rural Tennessee with a Southern belle. Still our song. 0 relation to anywhere else in the South.
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William Inge was a great hire.
Vols410 said:
Watching 2022 vs. 2024 Tennessee / Bama highlights.

That Hooker -> Hyatt combination was absolutely ridiculous. #5's consistency on those wide open throws was something else. If Heupel can get Nico even halfway there we're talking about an elite offense again.

2024's athleticism on defense is on a totally different level, my goodness.
- BY / Baron / Bumphus vs. Pearce / Josephs / West / Bailey
- Beasley / Banks vs. Telander / Carter / Perry (Linebackers are sneaky good this year)
- Slaughter / Hadden vs. McCoy / Gibson

Watch the 2022 game and the defense looks like molasses compared to the guys we're watching this year. That recruiting paying off big time.
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VolGee4 said:
It makes sense- just like a defense seeing if the punt team or the offense is coming on the field for a 4th and 1. However, the defense is able to match the offensive personnel, but why was Bama running a player off the field? That means they didn't like their matching and needed to change personnel, which makes the call a correct one. That's on Bama.
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I don't think so. They're allowed to see what personnel the offense has, then substitute accordingly.

Now I'm not sure if they had already substituted after seeing our personnel, then decided to change their mind. That would be on them. But initially it looked to me that when our players and coaches returned to the sideline, Bama realized the 11 we left on the field were different than they expected, so they wanted to sub.
 
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engineerVOL said:
Total transparency… I didn’t even know Josh Heupel was a head coach.

I was not thrilled. Also pretty numb by that point.
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I was neutral. I thought he rode Scott frosts success and recruiting, so he wasn't as proven as his record suggested. But I definitely thought we could do worse. But I was definitely numb too, I just wanted to regularly win 8 again and be competitive in a couple of the losses, that's all I cared about.
 
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