2024 Presidential Race

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McDad said:
Well, bad news for you today, you suck and your opinions are bad.

Seriously, tell me more. Why do you favor that?
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I am being somewhat flippant; I understand funding is necessary for any government supported program, but I would be in favor of abolishing of the federal income tax if there were a way to fund pay-as-you-go programs. I think it would lead to more responsible government.

The establishment of the federal income tax allowed our bureaucrats the ability to fund policy and priorities that don't really call for public debate and consideration. The consistent flow of income made it "easy" to pass legislation that comes with a real cost to the public, without a real debate on the cost-benefit of that legislation, because that cost is buried in a massive budget made possible by "adjustments" to the income tax.

Before the income tax, a legislator had to make was an actual, real consideration of costs, where the funds for the program would come from, and whether the constituency would support both of those.

Distribution of tax income has also become somewhat of a "rewards" system for certain blocks. I know there are "common good" arguments: There are roads to be build and health to be looked after, etc. In the past, private companies built "plank roads" and organizations like churches provided "home missionaries" (think todays social workers) to help. We had services for people, they just weren't always provided by the government. Once the government could use tax revenues to fund programs that weren't vetted, "pork" in the budget increased.

Without an income tax, I think politicians are more accountable to their constituents for the legislation that they pass. They have to go on record for believing a project is worth the funds, and how much of the public's money they think it is worth.

Spend too much and they get thrown out. Don't vote for something the people actually want and are willing to pay for, and they get thrown out.

In short, I think pay-as-you-go bills provide for better accountability from our elected leaders. I also think my idea is totally impracticable in the machinery of today's world. I don't have the slightest idea on how to implement it now that the genie is so far out of the bottle. But hey, I am discussing ideals, not practical application.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
I am being somewhat flippant; I understand funding is necessary for any government supported program, but I would be in favor of abolishing of the federal income tax if there were a way to fund pay-as-you-go programs. I think it would lead to more responsible government.

The establishment of the federal income tax allowed our bureaucrats the ability to fund policy and priorities that don't really call for public debate and consideration. The consistent flow of income made it "easy" to pass legislation that comes with a real cost to the public, without a real debate on the cost-benefit of that legislation, because that cost is buried in a massive budget made possible by "adjustments" to the income tax.

Before the income tax, a legislator had to make was an actual, real consideration of costs, where the funds for the program would come from, and whether the constituency would support both of those.

Distribution of tax income has also become somewhat of a "rewards" system for certain blocks. I know there are "common good" arguments: There are roads to be build and health to be looked after, etc. In the past, private companies built "plank roads" and organizations like churches provided "home missionaries" (think todays social workers) to help. We had services for people, they just weren't always provided by the government. Once the government could use tax revenues to fund programs that weren't vetted, "pork" in the budget increased.

Without an income tax, I think politicians are more accountable to their constituents for the legislation that they pass. They have to go on record for believing a project is worth the funds, and how much of the public's money they think it is worth.

Spend too much and they get thrown out. Don't vote for something the people actually want and are willing to pay for, and they get thrown out.

In short, I think pay-as-you-go bills provide for better accountability from our elected leaders. I also think my idea is totally impracticable in the machinery of today's world. I don't have the slightest idea on how to implement it now that the genie is so far out of the bottle. But hey, I am discussing ideals, not practical application.
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Realistically the federal government doesn't have to raise revenue as they have the power of the printing press, just like they are doing today.

I fundamentally don't have an issue with direct taxes if done on a government privilege which was the basis of the original tax. The issue is, it has morphed into something else.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Unfunny jokes, with 1950's social commentary and elitist perspectives. Conservative humor, is akin to the knock knock joke.

Jokes that woulda killed it in all cigarette smoke filled, all white Country Club's of 1950. Sexist, Ageist, Biggoted, Racist, and often filled with remarks making fun of mentally disabled, and those with handicaps.

Repugnant, deplorable.
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Call me a conservative humor guy, especially White Doug blast and blasting Chuck right to his face and patting him on the back while doing it.

 
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rekinhavoc said:
What's the current tally of interviews, rallies versus the nincompoop?

Sounds like his handlers are trying to slow him down.

Cackles handlers are trying to hide her .
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Remember how good her poll numbers were after she was installed?

The more she talks, the more people turn away from her.
 
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TN Ribs said:
Being a full-time grifter can be tiring. Sometimes you need some downtime to think about your next scheme to steal money from your supporters.
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Duping those that live on MLK in liberal metro cities for another election vote pays well. So your post is accurate
 
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TN Ribs said:
Being a full-time grifter can be tiring. Sometimes you need some downtime to think about your next scheme to steal money from your supporters.
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You mean when all of Biden's campaign money was stolen by Kamala's? no refund or opt out offered?

or do you mean Kamala's extended periods between doing anything? Like being late to the one interview she does in a couple weeks?

you think its just a Trump problem, but it isn't. y'all never want to admit it, but you are just voting for a different colored Trump.
 
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