Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I think people are discounting how dang hard it is to get up on top of a water tower.

I think, if there is a 2nd assassin, they were inside the glass building. . . I also have a hard time believing 2 snipers missed their target - as the unknown assassin would likely be a highly trained sniper. I suppose it's possible.

I do think we heard shots from at least 3 different guns.

Sorry been walk about so just now reading.

1) I agree it's not easy but there is still a base...if your not in the tower there should be someone on the ground there. Supposedly no one was posted there. At least that would clear it up. My point was not well made though, usually you have an overwatch position, that would either be someone posted on this tower or other high building, a drone, or a helicopter. We had none of those supposedly.

2) They didn't miss their target. The shot that hit trumps ear would have gone right in his ear canal, and is exactly where a professional would place his kill shot. The bullet was where it was supposed to be and trumps turn in 0.03 seconds are what saved his life. You can account for wind as a sniper, it's hard to account for head movement no matter how good you are. No matter how well placed my shot if my target moves I'm going to miss the target even if my shot goes exactly where intended. Things seldom go as planned....supposedly after crowd had pointed at shooter a policemen went up to eyeball him when he turned and pointed gun on policeman he went back down, and now the shots were rushed....maybe not according to plan. If the Crooks was rushed then it would follow that the professional (assuming they exist) was also rushed.

3) First shots sound unsupressed, Second rapid group sounds supressed (wether from a surpressor or just masked from inside a building), final kill shot of counter sniper sounds unsurpressed. To me and my untrained ear, who has just spent a decent amount of time at the range...I hear 3 diff weapons.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Imagine living in 2024 post covid-19 and still thinking the term "conspiracy" is a derogatory word, instead of a simple descriptor used at all points of history and every day life. The pychological conditioning for negative connotation has been impressive. It's no different than admitting "betrayel" and "planning" are things that exist, and always have and always will.

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[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Actually, you can hate on anything. MAGAs prove it daily.

Says the guy seathing with TDS hate.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Sorry been walk about so just now reading.

1) I agree it's not easy but there is still a base...if your not in the tower there should be someone on the ground there. Supposedly no one was posted there. At least that would clear it up. My point was not well made though, usually you have an overwatch position, that would either be someone posted on this tower or other high building, a drone, or a helicopter. We had none of those supposedly.

2) They didn't miss their target. The shot that hit trumps ear would have gone right in his ear canal, and is exactly where a professional would place his kill shot. The bullet was where it was supposed to be and trumps turn in 0.03 seconds are what saved his life. You can account for wind as a sniper, it's hard to account for head movement no matter how good you are. No matter how well placed my shot if my target moves I'm going to miss the target even if my shot goes exactly where intended. Things seldom go as planned....supposedly after crowd had pointed at shooter a policemen went up to eyeball him when he turned and pointed gun on policeman he went back down, and now the shots were rushed....maybe not according to plan. If the Crooks was rushed then it would follow that the professional (assuming they exist) was also rushed.

3) First shots sound unsupressed, Second rapid group sounds supressed (wether from a surpressor or just masked from inside a building), final kill shot of counter sniper sounds unsurpressed. To me and my untrained ear, who has just spent a decent amount of time at the range...I hear 3 diff weapons.

The last one sounds suppressed to me.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

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Are these normal numbers for an outdoor political rally event?

The 22 is a fraction of the detail the POTUS get and was a fraction of the detail that stayed at Mar a Lago from 17-20.

It all goes back to original risk analysis. Trump as the presumptive candidate needed a detail similar to the POTUS...

 

[LSU-SIU]

The 22 is a fraction of the detail the POTUS get and was a fraction of the detail that stayed at Mar a Lago from 17-20.

It all goes back to original risk analysis. Trump as the presumptive candidate needed a detail similar to the POTUS...

Is that the reason he almost died and 3 other people got shot? I mean, they could have 200 SS agents and it wouldn't have mattered in this instance from what we can tell.

This was very much avoidable even with half 11 SS agents.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Is that the reason he almost died and 3 other people got shot? I mean, they could have 200 SS agents and it wouldn't have mattered in this instance from what we can tell.

This was very much avoidable even with half 11 SS agents.

If they were stretched too thin to put anyone competent near the roof, then yes....

 

[LSU-SIU]

If they couldnt put anyone competent near the roof, then yes....

They were not willing to do anything. They knew he was there. Pre-shot the only group we know that did anything was local or state.

This was very avoidable.... do something. That's it, they didn't need another 100 guys.

The SS iirc said not only did they have the resources they actually increased the resources. They knew he was there for 20-30 odd minutes, what did they do? NOTHING.

More personnel wasn't the problem, its the excuse.

 

[Orangeburst]

If it was an inside job, it will happen again.

 

[malinoisvol]

My big worry is a Biden assassination attempt. The puppet masters now have a free pass to do so.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

They were not willing to do anything. They knew he was there. Pre-shot the only group we know that did anything was local or state.

This was very avoidable.... do something. That's it, they didn't need another 100 guys.

The SS iirc said not only did they have the resources they actually increased the resources. They knew he was there for 20-30 odd minutes, what did they do? NOTHING.

More personnel wasn't the problem, its the excuse.

I absolutely struggle with it being an inside job. You literally saw 40% of the SS agents on duty there storm the stage within 2-3 seconds and another 20-25% of them get up there within 10 seconds (this assumes the 22 number is correct)....

 

[LSU-SIU]

If it was an inside job, it will happen again.

They'll run a new gag. (if)

They have to have Orange, Ice Cream or the Doctor removed from the stage... any of them. Jack and Jill should stay in the basement.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I absolutely struggle with it being an inside job. You literally saw 40% of the SS agents on duty there storm the stage within 2-3 seconds and another 20-25% of them get up there within 10 seconds (this assumes the 22 number is correct)....

I am no way saying it is per se, it is a possibility though, right? I thought the SS agents on the ground did well, and I said so right after it happened. They risked there lives. But it doesn't take everyone in on it to make it happen though does it? Matter of fact, that is what not to do.

The SS clearly knew the guy was there, there was a clear problem with it as the snipers were on him.... yet, no action.

The whole thing is quite bizarre at the very least, improbably or nearly impossible. Bad luck? Good luck for Trump? Idk

It smells pretty bad though at the moment.

 

[ButchPlz]

My big worry is a Biden assassination attempt. The puppet masters now have a free pass to do so.

...and then turn around and blame it on white supremacist Trump supporters or some nonsense. I still believe this whole situation is/was orchestrated to take out two candidates- not just one.

 

[malinoisvol]

...and then turn around and blame it on white supremacist Trump supporters or some nonsense. I still believe this whole situation is/was orchestrated to take out two candidates- not just one.

Yep. That's what I told my wife a couple nights ago. Scarry stuff.

 

[LSU-SIU]

This is what I would do if I were President Jill (The Doctor)

> fire the SS director - shows strength that you want to get to the bottom of this and that the attempt is not acceptable... make sure President Jill is safe as well
> fire the AG because he has the ability to invoke the 25th and the doj already has a report that Biden is unfit or similar
> Obama calls, say I've spoken with the AG and he has informed me the statutory limits on federal murder is forever
> Let Obama know the President has the ability to pardon
> pardon Hunter
> pardon Trump for everything done during his first term... makes it look like good faith
> stay down in the basement
> Let The Powers that Be figure out how they are going to get me re-elected as its not my problem... its theirs

Orange, Ice Cream man, and the "Doctor" have to stay safe.

 

[volfanhill]

This is what I would do if I were President Jill (The Doctor)

> fire the SS director - shows strength that you want to get to the bottom of this and that the attempt is not acceptable... make sure President Jill is safe as well
> fire the AG because he has the ability to invoke the 25th and the doj already has a report that Biden is unfit or similar
> Obama calls, say I've spoken with the AG and he has informed me the statutory limits on federal murder is forever
> Let Obama know the President has the ability to pardon
> pardon Hunter
> pardon Trump for everything done during his first term... makes it look like good faith
> stay down in the basement
> Let The Powers that Be figure out how they are going to get me re-elected as its not my problem... its theirs

Orange, Ice Cream man, and the "Doctor" have to stay safe.

If Trump got taken out I assume Vance would be the nominee. He's more problematic for the establishment than Trump. Can't just whack his ass too. I mean you could but the public isn't that stupid. I don't think

 

[Gandalf]

Clearly, the snipers were in in it. Their job was to let him take the shot and then, hit or miss, kill him so he couldn't explain who was behind it. The WNBA.

Presuming that you are being facetious, I would really like to believe in mere incompetence instead of other options but info that is coming out so far certainly does not do anything to lay conspiracy theory to rest but rather fans its flames.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

My big worry is a Biden assassination attempt. The puppet masters now have a free pass to do so.

That might have been set up all along.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I have doubts events are unrelated....

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Says the guy seathing with TDS hate.

Yep. Says me who contacted it from MAGAs who have BDS. You guys spread hate-itis very well,

TDS is an interesting animal. What it eally, REALLY, ReAlLy is.

The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more than the blind hatred of those who preach tolerance and free speech. Viewed more broadly, the rise of presidential derangement syndromes is a function of increased polarization – not to mention our national self-sorting – at work in the country today.

We no longer live around, work around or pal around with people who think any differently than us. We watch cable news that affirms what we already think. We read ideological “news” sites that tell us how good our side is and how bad the other one is. And on and on and on.

Is it any wonder then that we are increasingly willing to lump those who disagree with us into the “deranged” category? To say that those who don’t share our views are mentally deficient in some way?

What does it say about a President – and about a country – when the standard response to those with whom you disagree is that they must be crazy? Nothing good, for sure.

Source: The Point

 

[Matt2496]

So we're a week out, yet we still don't have a motive released to the public? Something is a bit odd.

 

[Volnanza]

This is interesting. Long but informative. This is going to turn out to be the biggest foul up in history or...something else.