2024 Presidential Race

[85SugarVol]

Please, the whole debate revolves around timing.

It is unreasonable to wonder if the line has been crossed at this point - today.

 

[JOEY’S ALL VOL !!!]

Understood.

I'm just admitting he can be intensely unlikable.

Intensely unlikable is an understatement. When you are so unlikable that 81 million people are so desperate and so unbelievably stupid as to vote for Joe Biden for POTUS, well then, you aren’t just immensely unliked, you are downright hatable in the biggest way.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Meh. Nothing has been stolen if Biden declines the nomination for "personal reasons." It just has to be his decision. If someone tells you that they aren't the victim of theft ...... then nothing was stolen.

Biden is not the victim. His millions and millions of voters are. They voted for the man. Some of them, presumably, because they wanted him to remain President.

If the Ds wanted a primary, they should have had one. The whole fiction of “personal reasons” to drop out is transparently false and is insulting to all his voters, not to mention the rest of the country.

I have said that I am a registered R, after the tidal shift of the early 2000’s made my county overwhelmingly R. If I want to vote for local officials, I must for in a primary. I did not vote for Donald Trump. (Nor did I in 2016.) His voters won. If the Rs were to replace Trumpfor some reason other than incapacity, I would be pissed at them, too. They won the election, just as our current President did in 2020.

What the Ds are proposing is every bit as abhorrent to modern electoral processes as what those who tried to stop the count on J6 did.

 

[Vol423]

Understood.

I'm just admitting he can be intensely unlikable.

I don't like him either. I don't care. His policies are very good.

 

[volinbham]

Meh. Nothing has been stolen if Biden declines the nomination for "personal reasons." It just has to be his decision. If someone tells you that they aren't the victim of theft ...... then nothing was stolen.

kinda like someone telling you they weren't a victim of valuation fraud?

 

[luthervol]

It is unreasonable to wonder if the line has been crossed at this point - today.

So then what should the response be?
Dems should invoke the 25th?
Repubs should demand that dems invoke the 25th?

 

[Vol423]

With President Biden's future uncertain, a majority of Democrats say the country would be in good hands if his vice president were to take over the White House.

A new poll from the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about six in 10 Democrats believe that Vice President Kamala Harris would do a good job as president herself. About two in 10 Democrats don’t believe she would, and another two in 10 say they don’t know enough to say.

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New poll reveals what Democrats think of Harris as president

A new AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll finds that a majority of Democrats think Vice President Kamala Harris would make a good president herself.

www.foxnews.com

If she becomes the Democratic nominee, Trump is going to beat her about the head and neck with the fantastic job she did as the Border Czar and how her and Mayorkas lied for over 3 years claiming the southern border was closed.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Who's acting like it's the Rs fault?
I'm simply saying that if the Rs truly wanted the 25th invoked, they would have taken a different approach.

Ummm, I believe it is reasonable, at this point, to conclude that you are.

Why aren't repubs screaming for it???????

Did Trump even mention it in his speach?

Has anyone at the repub. convention?

 

[LadyVolette]

Seems like a good point to me..............
We're talking politics......if repubs actually wanted the dems to invoke the 25th, their approach would be completely different.

I think we are mostly going to just sit back and watch what y’all do.. it’s the safest bet

 

[Vol423]

kinda like someone telling you they weren't a victim of valuation fraud?

Oh, no! That doesn't count!

 

[BowlBrother85]

I don’t like those things, but at the end of the day, I don’t give a damn about ANY of those things as long as he is enacting policies that benefit the US. Biden’s administration immediately busted out a flamethrower to try to burn the country to the ground. There is not one single policy area in which the Biden Administration has done a good job.

As President, Donald Trump prioritized the importance of getting an infrastructure deal passed, and yet, despite having a Republican majority in both chambers of Congress during his first two years in office, and already being a free spender anyway .... nothing was ever done.

How ‘Infrastructure Week’ Became a Long-Running Joke (Published 2019)

Until ......

How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t (Published 2021)

The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency.

www.nytimes.com

.... and in spite of :

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/28/infrastructure-deal-trump-501287

 

[85SugarVol]

So then what should the response be?
Dems should invoke the 25th?
Repubs should demand that dems invoke the 25th?

Republicans should demand something from the Democrats? Sure, that would go well.

Only the Democrats can action this.

Regardless, it is unreasonable to suggest that Biden may cross the line “in the future”.

 

[luthervol]

Ummm, I believe it is reasonable, at this point, to conclude that you are.

What?????????????
That in no way is saying it is their fault!!

I'm simply saying they do not desire to see the 25th invoked.......they only wish to act as if they do.

 

[Vol423]

As President, Donald Trump prioritized the importance of getting an infrastructure deal passed, and yet, despite having a Republican majority in both chambers of Congress during his first two years in office, and already being a free spender anyway .... nothing was ever done.

How ‘Infrastructure Week’ Became a Long-Running Joke (Published 2019)


Until ......

How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t (Published 2021)

The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency.

www.nytimes.com

.... and in spite of :

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/28/infrastructure-deal-trump-501287

Thankfully, your stooge currently in office also hasn't spent the overwhelming majority of The Green New Scam money. That will be killed in early 2025. Also, a lot of that money to hire IRS agents will end up being repurposed.

 

[DaddyChad]

This is huge. In an eloquent piece, the New York Times Editorial Board has called for Biden to step aside.
I fully agree with everything in this piece. At the end of the day, the stakes for the country are too high. We need someone younger
and more dynamic to take on the malignant lowlife that is D. Trump--a man who is a threat to America's democracy and our national security
interests. It would be an utter disaster for this country to see that vile, corrupt, treasonous man staining the White House again.

Opinion | To Serve His Country, President Biden Should Leave the Race

The president’s inadequate performance in the debate made it clear he is not the man he was four years ago.

www.nytimes.com

Let’s be real you would vote for a corpse if it had a D beside its name on the ballot.

 

[LadyVolette]

I don't like him either. I don't care. His policies are very good.

He doesn’t really bother me, I find him amusing…but I see how he would rub folks the wrong way.. people like humble, or at least the pretense of it…but, anyone who is going to run for president secretly thinks pretty highly of themselves and it’s not like we have to have him over for dinner lol… though that would be funny..we typically paid 13k less in taxes per year with our LLC under DJT so that was definitely a plus.. small business owners like us love him.. he can say whatever he wants, but I do wish he had someone on staff to tell him to hush sometimes just so we don’t have to hear the Left cry about it all of the time

 

[DaddyChad]

Get real, Earl: Biden is the soul of honesty compared to the pathological, sinister liar on the other side.

“Soul of honesty”? His entire administration is built on a lie. The guy looks like he’s struggling just to stay alive much less make decisions for the country. There is zero way in hell he’s making decisions higher than what flavor of ice cream he wants. His mental decline only has been revealed in the media bc it suits the dems agenda now.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Thankfully, your stooge currently in office also hasn't spent the overwhelming majority of The Green New Scam money. That will be killed in early 2025. Also, a lot of that money to hire IRS agents will end up being repurposed.

Some other 2016 campaign promises which never came to fruition under Donald Trump :

Repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act
Building a new stretch of border wall, that Mexico would pay for.
Eliminating the debt. His budget proposal requests made it clear that even a reduction in spending was never seriously considered.

For a President whose party was in control of both chambers during his first two years in office, Trump got very little legislation passed. Pretty much everything had to be done by Executive Order ..... which he had been critical of Barack Obama for over-using.

 

[Ritzwatch]

What?????????????
That in no way is saying it is their fault!!

I'm simply saying they do not desire to see the 25th invoked.......they only wish to act as if they do.

Ok. I am not chasing deflections. R motives should have no bearing on whether Ds are doing, or not doing, the right thing. The Ds should do what is right regardless; you do them no favors suggesting (or questioning) whether R guidance is needed for them to act on moral imperatives. The Ds are capable of making choices without input from the Rs. Their failure to do so reflects poorly on them, not the Rs.

But you can keep running that rabbit trail alone; I will respectfully disagree and bow out.

The wild card in this whole scenario is Joe “I give my word as a Biden,” who has repeatedly stated 1) he is running, and 2) that he is not a quitter.

Pride.

Right now, it is the Dems vs Pride.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[Orangeburst]

Joe is seething at Pelosi, per CNN

 

[Ritzwatch]

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[NorthDallas40]

JD Vance' new ride...
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Uh oh is that a 737 MAX?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Biden is not the victim. His millions and millions of voters are. They voted for the man. Some of them, presumably, because they wanted him to remain President.

Most of us voted for Biden, as a vote against Trump. Provided that it is his decision, I doubt that anyone will be sad to see Biden decline the nomination.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Most of us voted for Biden, as a vote against Trump. Provided that it is his decision, I doubt that anyone will be sad to see Biden decline the nomination.

In the primary??