Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

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LSU-SIU said:
I'm not discounting a second shooter or someone up in the water tower. From what I can tell, the first three shots look plausible to hit those targets from the video.

There could have been a shooter that didn't shoot up in the tower as well. ????
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The only thing I can say about the water tower is why the hell wasn't at least one agent/leo posted there? I'm far more interested in why this wasn't a post for security, if only someone with a radio, then I am it being the loaction of a second shooter. Also I am wondering if tower even has a good view because I don't know where the information screen was but appears to be between trump and tower. I tried to look for a picture of tower that shows trumps stage while the info screen is still up but haven't seen one.

There can be a second shooter without the water tower though.

To me the biggest single problem with narrative was and continues to be why wasn't Trump taken off stage sooner when threat was first identified. It still seems to be the biggest point of something being fishy.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
The only thing I can say about the water tower is why the hell wasn't at least one agent/leo posted there? I'm far more interested in why this wasn't a post for security, if only someone with a radio, then I am it being the loaction of a second shooter. Also I am wondering if tower even has a good view because I don't know where the information screen was but appears to be between trump and tower. I tried to look for a picture of tower that shows trumps stage while the info screen is still up but haven't seen one.

There can be a second shooter without the water tower though.
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Well. I don't think you'll ever get the Truth out all this, matter of fact, it will probably get worse.

Agree with the very bottom as well.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Yes, the two hit were in the upper right...
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Maybe you're right. I thought only one of the corner guys was hit. I can't find anything showing where James Copenhaver was standing vs where David Dutch was standing. I assumed the guy who fell like a sack of potatoes was one of the two, but I don't see any info on that.
 
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It keeps getting worse: Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump on July 13 in Butler, Pennsylvania, reportedly flew a drone over the rally area shortly before he executed his attack. Crooks scaled a rooftop unmolested, despite scores of attendees watching him army crawl on the roof, which was left unprotected by the Secret Service, as he lined up to take shots at Trump. The roof was less than 200 yards from the stage (via WSJ):

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There's *ANOTHER* Disturbing Update on the Trump Assassination Attempt

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Franklin Pierce said:
It keeps getting worse: Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump on July 13 in Butler, Pennsylvania, reportedly flew a drone over the rally area shortly before he executed his attack. Crooks scaled a rooftop unmolested, despite scores of attendees watching him army crawl on the roof, which was left unprotected by the Secret Service, as he lined up to take shots at Trump. The roof was less than 200 yards from the stage (via WSJ):

townhall.com

There's *ANOTHER* Disturbing Update on the Trump Assassination Attempt

townhall.com townhall.com
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Reportedly. And from a known conspiracy nonsense site. Come on.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Reportedly. And from a known conspiracy nonsense site. Come on.
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Its being report by the WSJ as well.

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(think about getting some help)
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Please watch that video and look at the guys I've circled. Those guys both fall simultaneously standing on opposite ends of the top row. How?!?! I see condescending talk about middle school geometry, but this issue seems so obvious that I really don't understand how nobody else is understanding this.
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Other people have mentioned it, and I posted a graphic on it, you probably want to check out @I_Am_JohnCullen who has gone into that more. I am just not sure I see evidence that shots are going parallel to back row, and not them just being shot simultanously..... shots were pretty rapid.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
It keeps getting worse: Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump on July 13 in Butler, Pennsylvania, reportedly flew a drone over the rally area shortly before he executed his attack. Crooks scaled a rooftop unmolested, despite scores of attendees watching him army crawl on the roof, which was left unprotected by the Secret Service, as he lined up to take shots at Trump. The roof was less than 200 yards from the stage (via WSJ):

townhall.com

There's *ANOTHER* Disturbing Update on the Trump Assassination Attempt

townhall.com townhall.com
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Why the Secret Service left the rooftop unprotected remains the predominant issue, especially since it was flagged as a security vulnerability.
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The primary issues - Why was Orange rolled out on stage? Why wasn't Orange pulled from the stage?

>>>>>>THEY KNEW HE WAS THERE<<<<<<
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

EVERYONE
KNEW
HE
WAS
THERE

Drone don't matter.
Army crawl doesn't matter.
Line of sight doesn't matter.
Bullets and trajectories don't matter.
Sloped roofs don't matter.
Lack of personnel doesn't matter.
Heat doesn't matter.
Ladders don't matter.
Gun sights don't matter.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Other people have mentioned it, and I posted a graphic on it, you probably want to check out @I_Am_JohnCullen who has gone into that more. I am just not sure I see evidence that shots are going parallel to back row, and not them just being shot simultanously..... shots were pretty rapid.
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The first three shots were spaced out.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Reportedly. And from a known conspiracy nonsense site. Come on.
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The Wall Street Journal is known for conspiracy nonsense?

Trump Gunman Flew Drone Over Rally Site Hours Before Attempted Assassination​

The gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump was able to fly a drone and get aerial footage of the western Pennsylvania fairgrounds shortly before the former president was set to speak there, law-enforcement officials briefed on the matter said, further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead of Trump’s near assassination.

 
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I found this interesting. There are some real issues with bullet trajectories in this attempt....much like the "magic bullet" bullcrap with JFK. Something just doesnt add up. Aside from the different angles etc pointed out at the start of this video, theres the round that allegedly struck 1 guy nowhere near Trump, then gained altitude and struck another man before finally busting a hydraulic hose on the tractor that was several feet higher than Trump in elevation. We will likely never know the real truth of what actually happened due to coverup by the Feds, but it sure seems like there was a 2nd shooter to me. I have seen 3 new details come out from different sources today that conflict with previous reports though. Just today:

The SS now says that the kid stashed the weapon ahead of time and the SS and locals missed it when sweeping the area repeatedly...

10 separate people claim that they saw a man on top of the water tower

Finally, the water tower is now off limits and the police have secured the area at its base. No access allowed besides LEOs

What a mess. Incompetence is clearly an issue here. The real question is whether the kid acted alone or had help? Whomever decided to let Trump take the stage at 6pm despite there being a KNOWN threat to him since 530 needs to be interrogated and locked up. Period. If you so something stupid and put your own child in danger, you go to jail for endangering a minor. These clowns knowingly put the most important human on Earth in mortal danger and should be locked up. Whether folks want to admit it or not, we were an inch away from likely Civil War on Saturday. There should be consequences for those responsible.
 
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@McDad

Here's another view of that guy falling. Why is he the only one who seems to react? Nobody around him flinches (not bad enough to drop like a sack of potatoes at least). He falls simultaneously as the bullet hits the handrail. That's before the report would've even reached them. He wasn't flinching at a sound.

 
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SamRebel35 said:
@McDad

Here's another view of that guy falling. Why is he the only one who seems to react? Nobody around him flinches. He falls simultaneously as the bullet hits the handrail. That's before the report would've even reached them. He wasn't flinching at a sound.

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Idk, Sam.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
So we can argue ballistics and second shooter theory all day, to me the biggest evidence for collusion was the lapse in security and strange actions on the security detail.

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#4...... there should have been no way for any gun to be stashed......unless this was not done....and it's always done.
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Did Cheatle and crew knowingly put an understaffed and too stretched thin detail on 7/13?

That is a fair question to ask
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
The Wall Street Journal is known for conspiracy nonsense?

Trump Gunman Flew Drone Over Rally Site Hours Before Attempted Assassination​

The gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump was able to fly a drone and get aerial footage of the western Pennsylvania fairgrounds shortly before the former president was set to speak there, law-enforcement officials briefed on the matter said, further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead of Trump’s near assassination.

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Then quote the reputable source, not the usual suspects.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I mean, does that video give you pause? Am I crazy? That guy looks like he was shot.
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I've looked but cannot find a source which shows where Mr Dutch and Mr Copenhaver were in the stands.
Because of the nature of the injuries, my assumption is Mr Dutch is the guy next to the rail.
 
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