Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

[MontyPython]

Spoken like a Good Comrade.

Ahhh... so if I don't support Trump that makes me a communist, eh.

That's genuinely fascist thinking right there, slick.

 

[Vol737]

Do think there is a chance that they will both try to at least attempt to stick to their recent unity claims? I mean, as much as possible late in a campaign. Or was this just a tactical or knee jerk reaction with no real chance or true commitment?

Sadly, I think that's all it has become. They "think" it sounds good and sincere in the moment, but I think it's just hollow at this point. These are usually politicians that, as we know, will say anything to look good. "Unity" isn't good for the media business either.

 

[MontyPython]

Most of the crazies are Republicans.
- Monty

Not at all. Dems have plenty... they just seem to have less (legal) guns, but possibly more teeth (in the South at least).

 

[Volbucky]

I read that a local Leo climbed the ladder and the shooter drew down on him

Local Leo, 35k/ year salary. Disgusting

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I did not. Was it from videos where he’s still alive?

Reportedly the officer who found him had to be lifted up by another officer, but that doesn’t rule out a ladder being somewhere else.

Ladder or no ladder, the guy tried to kill a Presidential candidate. He could pawn a favor from Superman to fly him to the roof. He still tried to commit murder of a candidate. Hatemongers, conspiracists, and everyone, do you get it?

 

[McDad]

I did not. Was it from videos where he’s still alive?

Reportedly the officer who found him had to be lifted up by another officer, but that doesn’t rule out a ladder being somewhere else.

Stills, I think, taken from video of the day shortly after the event.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

BlackRock Yanks 2022 Ad Featuring Trump Shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks​

BlackRock Inc., the world’s largest money manager, has pulled an ad that briefly featured Thomas Crooks, the 20-year-old who shot and wounded former President Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.

BlackRock yanks 2022 ad featuring Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks

Thomas Crooks, the 20-year-old who shot and wounded former President Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania, appeared in a 2022 ad for BlackRock Inc., the world’s largest money manager.

nypost.com

 

[McDad]

I read that a local Leo climbed the ladder and the shooter drew down on him

Oh, ok. Maybe the ladder was placed by the LEO and NOT the shooter. Or maybe the LEO climbed the shooter's ladder.

 

[Majors]

Well, of course, she is going to cite a different reason. She could have dismissed this case for that reason months ago, however.

This will be heavily scrutinized .... Her reasoning is a crock.

Could have went with age and made it valid to the left.

 

[Tman44]

Same attitude in you MAGA-Repubs. Pence followed the law in refusing to defy the constitution, and you people call him a traitor.
Your claim to holiness is a lie. Romans 3:10-12

If you see me make a low character move, please call me out on it. Truthfully commenting about something someone else said is not a claim to holiness, just a statement of fact.

 

[RockyTop85]

Did you see the screenshot of the ladder in between the buildings?

We spend billions on intelligence and security...... And they get defeated by a ****ing ladder and tree. What the hell is going on?

Found it. But it’s a screenshot from helicopter footage and there’s a police car right there. So seems like it’s post-shooting and investigators/more people are accessing the roof. Not sure it’s a sound conclusion that that’s a ladder he used. But it would make a mockery of the secret service if he hauled, placed, and used that ladder to get on the roof.

 

[Vol737]

BlackRock Yanks 2022 Ad Featuring Trump Shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks​

BlackRock Inc., the world’s largest money manager, has pulled an ad that briefly featured Thomas Crooks, the 20-year-old who shot and wounded former President Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.

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BlackRock yanks 2022 ad featuring Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks

Thomas Crooks, the 20-year-old who shot and wounded former President Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania, appeared in a 2022 ad for BlackRock Inc., the world’s largest money manager.

nypost.com

Interesting. The fact this kid is in one of their ads is likely coincidental. Makes sense BLK is taking this down as they have also been re-evaluating their approach to ESG. ESG has caused some issues for them among clients and the returns have been paltry in a pretty good market. One has nothing to do with the other, but they sure don't want to give an excuse for any more bad press.

 

[82_VOL_83]

You're a hunter. If Crooks was 130 yards from DJT, how far from SS sniper?
Whatever the distance, could you tell if rifle at same distance?

Looking through even my optics, without a doubt.

 

[volfanhill]

I remember there being a photo of a ladder leaning up against the building the shooter was on top of. This was during all the network coverage on Saturday when it was shown. Pretty grainy photo and they may have retracted that statement. Idk.

I saw that photo too. Eye witnesses also reference a ladder

"Officers were then told Crooks was climbing a ladder, the official said. Officers searched for him but were unable to find him before he made it to the roof, the official added.



Butler County Sheriff Michael Slupe told the AP that a local officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who saw the officer and turned toward him just before the officer dropped down to safety. Slupe said the officer couldn’t have wielded his own gun under the circumstances. The officer retreated down the ladder, and Crooks quickly took a shot toward "

In the wake of Trump's attempted assassination, investigators search for clues around the motive

Investigators hunt for clues about what may have driven the 20-year-old shooter to try to assassinate former President Donald Trump.

apnews.com

 

[85SugarVol]

Not at all. Dems have plenty... they just seem to have less (legal) guns, but possibly more teeth (in the South at least).

Really?

Well that's certainly an efficient way to have a good percentage of all the crazies filtered and removed from society... this time with longer sentences.

 

[McDad]

Found it. But it’s a screenshot from helicopter footage and there’s a police car right there. So seems like it’s post-shooting and investigators/more people are accessing the roof. Not sure it’s a sound conclusion that that’s a ladder he used. But it would make a mockery of the secret service if he hauled, placed, and used that ladder to get on the roof.

Glad we circled back to this. That ladder was giving me fits to explain.

Now that I see the LEO's car, we can say either the ladder was there before and used by shooter (huge issue, if true) or placed by LEOs/SS

 

[RockyTop85]

I saw that photo too. Eye witnesses also reference a ladder

In the wake of Trump's attempted assassination, investigators search for clues around the motive

Investigators hunt for clues about what may have driven the 20-year-old shooter to try to assassinate former President Donald Trump.

apnews.com

That article also references the officer who found him climbing a ladder, which is inconsistent with other reports about how that interaction happened.

I agree it would be really bad if dude was toting around an 18 foot extension ladder in the parking lot and nobody stopped him to find out wtf he’s doing.

 

[MontyPython]

Which part is garbage? The part where the secret service failed to protect Trump? or the part where the head of the secret service previous job experience was protecting Pepsi sodas? I’m predicting she resigns before she gets drug before congress and shown to be a complete idiot just like the rest of chyt-4-brains appointments.

You reposted 2 twitter posts:

The first claimed that Jonathon Willis - the Secret Service agent in the now infamous Pic - stated that his request to shoot the assassin was denied by his superior for 3 minutes. This is complete ********. The source of this purported claim was actually an anonymous poster on 4chan.

The second claimed that Trump had been requesting additional security for weeks but was denied. This is another demonstrably false allegation. There have been numerous articles snuffing this false claim.

So there it is: You reposted 2 twitter posts and both of them were complete garbage. Just stop.

 

[utvolpj]

AS it has been well reported, he had a change of heart and moved to the left. He most lately he gave money to a leftist lib-tard organization. See folks, if libs don't like the facts, they lie.

It is a super low-character move to try and misrepresent the shooter's allegiance in order to smear your political opponents. Low character words and deeds are indicative of democrats. This was just another example of such base behavior.

I believe it was $15 a couple years ago. I mean, if we're really worried about misrepresenting

 

[McDad]

I saw that photo too. Eye witnesses also reference a ladder

"Officers were then told Crooks was climbing a ladder, the official said. Officers searched for him but were unable to find him before he made it to the roof, the official added.



Butler County Sheriff Michael Slupe told the AP that a local officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who saw the officer and turned toward him just before the officer dropped down to safety. Slupe said the officer couldn’t have wielded his own gun under the circumstances. The officer retreated down the ladder, and Crooks quickly took a shot toward "

In the wake of Trump's attempted assassination, investigators search for clues around the motive

Investigators hunt for clues about what may have driven the 20-year-old shooter to try to assassinate former President Donald Trump.

apnews.com

Thanks.

Now I am back to a big issue with the ladder.
From your link:
Several rallygoers reported to local officers that Crooks was acting suspiciously and pacing near the magnetometers, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation. Officers were then told Crooks was climbing a ladder, the official said. Officers searched for him but were unable to find him before he made it to the roof, the official added.

@RockyTop85

 

[MontyPython]

Really?

Well, define the population in question. If we're just talking this board, it's absolutely dominated by republicans... a certain percentage of which are full on bat **** crazy. In the general US population, there are more democrats, so their craziness does its best to keep up.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Lmao, if you’re saying with a straight face that “GOOD vs EVIL” and “the party of pedophiles” and “civil war” blah blah blah doesn’t count as ratcheting up political rhetoric because it’s all just “true,” no wonder you only blame one side

Your party has weaponized the justice system to go after political opponents.
Your party has spent 8 years trying to destroy a man over politics.
Your party created fake information to to acquire search warrants against political opponents.
Your party created a fake accusations to try and soil a man's reputation and ruin his life because you didn't like him for the supreme court.
Your party went to it's media and social media and colluded to suppress information to benefit your party's nominee for president.
Your president took showers with his underage daughter.
Your party wants to allow transgender and drag queens to read to elementary age children.
Your party fights to keep pornographic material in school libraries
Your party fights against laws that prevent genital mutilation of minors.
Your party wants to literally kill viable fetuses.
Your party, your politicians, federal politicians openly advocate for violence against opposition.

I'm sure I'm missing some stuff.

Sounds pretty evil to me.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Biden's what?

"the Bidens" ..... as in Hunter and Joe.

... and because dumb stuff like this weighs on my conscience, sorry for the name-calling yesterday. And I don't expect anything in return.

 

[RockyTop85]

I believe it was $15 a couple years ago. I mean, if we're really worried about misrepresenting

If he was 20 on 7/13/2024, then 1/20/2021 would have been age 17. Before he registered to vote as a republican? Cuts against the “changed from red to blue” narrative.

I could see somebody sufficiently progressive registering as a Republican to vote in primaries. Especially if they’re politically indoctrinated enough to try to kill. Seems like more motivated certainty about things that are uncertain.

 

[Halph66]

Have not seen anything reliable saying that he used a ladder, but this still pretty much sums up my thoughts re: the fact that he made it that far.

Almost every article that I have read, from many different sources says that a police officer confronted the shooter, the shooter pointed his gun at him, and the officer climbed back down the ladder.