Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

[LSU-SIU]

I noticed the male agents seemed to be very fit and athletic while the female agents not so much….

Anyone willing to throw their body in front of a bullet for someone else has my respect, fat or thin. The men got up there faster, but everyone on the ground there did their part. It should mostly be a man's job though.

Right now its not the people on the ground that have the issue, the snipers probably, command and control, probably, per-inspection, probably.

 

[McDad]

It's great malpractice by the SS at the very, very least. Its a position of 150 yards away elevated and they didnt see them or engage before they were able to fire off 9 rounds?

I admit I know nothing of SS tech, techniques, or SOP.

Wouldn't the SS snipers need to make sure this isnt some kid wanting to get a view of Trump with a telescope or a photographer with a telescopic lens before they start blasting?

 

[lawgator1]

You have drawn a conclusion from very little information then.

Unfortunately they want the conclusion to be true sooooo much that they won't wait for, or care about, the facts.

 

[hUTch2002]

While I agree with you, I fear it isn't just Trump voters. Mankind has never been a peaceful species. We kill, and wipe out animals, plants, and each other in the of sport, for being pests (while in truth we ourselves are the pests), and hatred. What we are seeing today is an irreversible sickness. I say irreversible because the majority of people insist on rationalizing the status quo. And I dare say the days Jesus and Paul spoke thereof are already here and getting worse.


Don't be surprised if a Trumper tries to twist this post into somehow being completely the opposite of what I said, some have already employed that tactic.

Well I was being sarcastic about Trump voters but I agree there’s nut jobs on all sides and it seems like across our country nut jobs are feeling more comfortable with acting in their craziness. People care less and less about each other every day. Of course it’s easier to escalate situations and blow things out of proportion when everyone is interacting with each other online rather than in person. In person you to get to know people and see that even if they disagree they’re still a good person. Online you have far less cues into who people are and people have little to no accountability for what is said. We also seem to be struggling as a country with how to deal with anger. Perhaps young men spend far too much time on their couches and not releasing that built up testosterone through physical exercise, movement, sex or whatever. There’s no outlet if all you do is binge watch TV and play video games all day.

 

[CAVPUT]

This country is a powder keg right now.

Yep. And if there's an extreme breakdown, watch the current admin declare martial law and even attempt to stop the upcoming election or to fundamentally change voting so as to allow the outcome to be completely controlled by those in power. Nothing in politics happens by accident....nothing.

 

[StarRaider]

Tribalism yet you only are liking posts from the radical lefties on here and responding to the folks on the right. Ironic isn’t it?

so i am not the only one that noticed that... ty

 

[VolsLFC]

This story has my brain on overdrive.

 

[n_huffhines]

Again, his political party shouldn't matter. This was a complete failure on the part of law enforcement and SS. The biggest question remains why SS didn't take out this sniper in the minutes they had their guns aimed at him before the assassin fired.

Why the hell doesn't it matter? Why is the only thing that matters security? Makes no sense

 

[Majors]

I haven't "hoped" for anything ..... I have only posted links to what law enforcement officials think Trump was struck with.

I have seen both sides focusing on this only in terms of politics .... and it is disgusting.

Why don’t you trust the one who took the bullet. He said he took a bullet, then he took a bullet

 

[Wireless1]

Probably never see JB in public again

Shumer probably called Joe and said, SS has shown to be incapable of protecting their charge, and Trumpers are going to be out for revenge so better head back to the basement or drop out.

 

[BearCat204]

I admit I know nothing of SS tech, techniques, or SOP.

Wouldn't the SS snipers need to make sure this isnt some kid wanting to get a view of Trump with a telescope or a photographer with a telescopic lens before they start blasting?

I will preface this with I am not in the SS nor do I know their exact protocol, but they would 1000% be able to determine if he had a rifle at that range from them. Those who are in those positions (SS) can hit a quarter with a shot from 150 yards away with ease. Not really a conspiracy theorist, but somebody ****ed up bad and ****ed up something so simple as its their basic responsibility that you have to question why and how.

 

[CAVPUT]

Well I was being sarcastic about Trump voters but I agree there’s nut jobs on all sides and it seems like across our country nut jobs are feeling more comfortable with acting in their craziness. People care less and less about each other every day. Of course it’s easier to escalate situations and blow things out of proportion when everyone is interacting with each other online rather than in person. In person you to get to know people and see that even if they disagree they’re still a good person. Online you have far less cues into who people are and people have little to no accountability for what is said. We also seem to be struggling as a country with how to deal with anger. Perhaps young men spend far too much time on their couches and not releasing that built up testosterone through physical exercise, movement, sex or whatever. There’s no outlet if all you do is binge watch TV and play video games all day.

The pillars this country was founded upon have been successfully destroyed. God has been removed. Instead of God's law, it's now left to each individual to decide what is right and what is wrong in their own mind. We have been dumbed down and divided. The cage is built and the door is being closed. Doubt there's a way to stop what's coming. Babylon will fall.

 

[Ttucke11]

Why the hell doesn't it matter? Why is the only thing that matters security? Makes no sense

I mean, the dude wasn't a Republican. His registered party is irrelevant. Let's find that social media which I'm sure it's LGBT/Orange man bad/Republicans should die/etc littered all over it.

 

[volinsd]

I admit I know nothing of SS tech, techniques, or SOP.

Wouldn't the SS snipers need to make sure this isnt some kid wanting to get a view of Trump with a telescope or a photographer with a telescopic lens before they start blasting?

That's the other reason to secure all buildings. Trumps safety sure, but you have to secure places to keep public out for their safety too.

 

[lawgator1]

Yep. And if there's an extreme breakdown, watch the current admin declare martial law and even attempt to stop the upcoming election or to fundamentally change voting so as to allow the outcome to be completely controlled by those in power. Nothing in politics happens by accident....nothing.

Oh come on. Ridiculous.

 

[GroverCleveland]

For those who lean conspiratorial:
Isn't it possible this was a culmination of error and confusion in the moment?

Why would this need to be anything more?

Pretty much my line of thought with one exception that gives me pause:

The ladder.

1. He did not move that ladder in the day of I suspect. Guy carrying in a ladder and a rifle would even raise the suspicion of the Dallas Police (nod here to Stephen King)
2. When was it moved in? It is not normal to keep a ladder like that to access what appear to be metal roofs on buildings like that on a routine basis.
4. How was the ladder "missed" in security reviews? That jumped out at me immediately and I am not trained for this kind of work. At the least it should have been removed if detected beforehand, noted and confirmed before and during the event
5. Routine patrols during the event of those buildings should have noted the presence of the ladder and raised alarms.
6. Was the gun pre-positioned? Hard to not get noticed carrying a long arm around Presidents and ex-Presidents.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Shumer probably called Joe and said, SS has shown to be incapable of protecting their charge, and Trumpers are going to be out for revenge so better head back to the basement or drop out.

Trumpers are a different breed. If DJT broke wind, the Trumpers would blame Biden for Donnie not sneezing instead. And if he did sneeze, they'd turn it the other way around.

 

[Majors]

Yep. And if there's an extreme breakdown, watch the current admin declare martial law and even attempt to stop the upcoming election or to fundamentally change voting so as to allow the outcome to be completely controlled by those in power. Nothing in politics happens by accident....nothing.

It’ll give Biden a backdoor way out of public campaigning. This is his basement moment he needed.

 

[davethevol]

Yep. And if there's an extreme breakdown, watch the current admin declare martial law and even attempt to stop the upcoming election or to fundamentally change voting so as to allow the outcome to be completely controlled by those in power. Nothing in politics happens by accident....nothing.

 

[n_huffhines]

I mean, the dude wasn't a Republican. His registered party is irrelevant. Let's find that social media which I'm sure it's LGBT/Orange man bad/Republicans should die/etc littered all over it.

No, it's not. Are you kidding? It depends on why he was registered R

 

[LSU-SIU]

That's the other reason to secure all buildings. Trumps safety sure, but you have to secure places to keep public out for their safety too.

The question to me is, were those buildings part of the event or was it other private property?

The SS does have a hard job here if its private property not part of the event. Technically, a person can stand on their own roof with a gun as long as they're not pointing it. (Not a smart thing to do in this situation though)

Multiple failures on this one.

 

[Redleg68]

If that's not photoshopped, one of the most incredible pics In our nation's history.

Don’t think there is a camera made with the shutter speed to catch a .223 bullet in mid flight.

 

[volinsd]

Pretty much my line of thought with one exception that gives me pause:

The ladder.

1. He did not move that ladder in the day of I suspect. Guy carrying in a ladder and a rifle would even raise the suspicion of the Dallas Police (nod here to Stephen King)
2. When was it moved in? It is not normal to keep a ladder like that to access what appear to be metal roofs on buildings like that on a routine basis.
4. How was the ladder "missed" in security reviews? That jumped out at me immediately and I am not trained for this kind of work. At the least it should have been removed if detected beforehand, noted and confirmed before and during the event
5. Routine patrols during the event of those buildings should have noted the presence of the ladder and raised alarms.
6. Was the gun pre-positioned? Hard to not get noticed carrying a long arm around Presidents and ex-Presidents.

All of that is easily addressed by placing just 1 officer on top of that building the morning of. One person for security.

Think about how basic the answer to the security problem was.

One officer on the one roof that's close.

if our government is that inept, during a event like this.....

 

[BowlBrother85]

Why don’t you trust the one who took the bullet. He said he took a bullet, then he took a bullet

It may not be accurate. There is nothing wrong with posting what law enforcement officials are saying.

 

[CAVPUT]

I will preface this with I am not in the SS nor do I know their exact protocol, but they would 1000% be able to determine if he had a rifle at that range from them. Those who are in those positions (SS) can hit a quarter with a shot from 150 yards away with ease. Not really a conspiracy theorist, but somebody ****ed up bad and ****ed up something so simple as its their basic responsibility that you have to question why and how.

No mistake. This door was left open deliberately. Hardly shocking. History repeats itself....or should I say, it worked for them previously so keep using what's been successful so many times before. They'll succeed eventually. My guess is something "medical" will befall Trump next. If they can't work that in time, there will be a societal breakdown that will be used as justification for martial law prior to the general election. One way or the other, they will not allow Trump a second term