Orangeslice13, a blessing to those around him…..Again

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VolNExile said:
@Orangeslice13 I suppose that I had always thought (insofar as I ever actually thought about it) that such things as circumcision and keeping kosher were means of honoring and publicly professing one’s faith in G-d, as opposed to sin. “Sin” being reserved for actions that disrespected or hurt others, contrary to respecting and loving them as fellow creatures of G-d.

Is that sort of like what you were saying above, or am I as confused about this as I think I am?
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I’m going with close enough to not split hairs about.
I always go to James for this type of discussion, Faith without works is dead. I think it’s possible to have faith without works and faith should come first but if you don’t have the desire to please G-d by doing the things he says you should for your betterment then do you really have faith. It’s not the keeping his word that matters, it’s the desire to keep his word that pleases Him. Actually getting it done correctly isn’t that important IMO. An example of what I mean is my lovely wife who has survived a liver disease that almost nobody has. And her liver has recovered in a way that’s is just not possible. They ran the scan 3 times to confirm because they just didn’t believe it. Now Red has done everything that she could….diet , exercise, never missing meds, ect. And we’ve prayed and prayed. Even with everything she’s done it’s not possible medically for her to have recovered. G-d has shown us mercy in a miraculous way. It’s clear she was healed. That’s how her faith went together with her works to bring about mercy. Would G-d have healed her without her works? Possibly but why would we not act in a way that says we believe G-d is going to heal us? Your works are an outward expression of an invisible faith.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m going with close enough to not split hairs about.
I always go to James for this type of discussion, Faith without works is dead. I think it’s possible to have faith without works and faith should come first but if you don’t have the desire to please G-d by doing the things he says you should for your betterment then do you really have faith. It’s not the keeping his word that matters, it’s the desire to keep his word that pleases Him. Actually getting it done correctly isn’t that important IMO. An example of what I mean is my lovely wife who has survived a liver disease that almost nobody has. And her liver has recovered in a way that’s is just not possible. They ran the scan 3 times to confirm because they just didn’t believe it. Now Red has done everything that she could….diet , exercise, never missing meds, ect. And we’ve prayed and prayed. Even with everything she’s done it’s not possible medically for her to have recovered. G-d has shown us mercy in a miraculous way. It’s clear she was healed. That’s how her faith went together with her works to bring about mercy. Would G-d have healed her without her works? Possibly but why would we not act in a way that says we believe G-d is going to heal us? Your works are an outward expression of an invisible faith.
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Thank you for this. I have never understood people who happily rest on their faith, but it doesn’t inspire them to get up and do something. (Besides knock on doors or whatever.) Do they think G-d’s work is done?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m going with close enough to not split hairs about.
I always go to James for this type of discussion, Faith without works is dead. I think it’s possible to have faith without works and faith should come first but if you don’t have the desire to please G-d by doing the things he says you should for your betterment then do you really have faith. It’s not the keeping his word that matters, it’s the desire to keep his word that pleases Him. Actually getting it done correctly isn’t that important IMO. An example of what I mean is my lovely wife who has survived a liver disease that almost nobody has. And her liver has recovered in a way that’s is just not possible. They ran the scan 3 times to confirm because they just didn’t believe it. Now Red has done everything that she could….diet , exercise, never missing meds, ect. And we’ve prayed and prayed. Even with everything she’s done it’s not possible medically for her to have recovered. G-d has shown us mercy in a miraculous way. It’s clear she was healed. That’s how her faith went together with her works to bring about mercy. Would G-d have healed her without her works? Possibly but why would we not act in a way that says we believe G-d is going to heal us? Your works are an outward expression of an invisible faith.
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If I recall, every blessing that the LORD promised came with a required action on the part of the blessed. Here's the promised land, it's yiurs, now go possess it. They had to go in and get what was theirs. Same applies today. If we want to receive the blessing, it requires action on our part. He isn't a genie that just grants wishes. Sometimes all that is required is faith, but we have to out that faith to work and do something. Push through the crowd to touch the hem. Cry out. Rip off a roof. It is my belief that when you truly repent and receive the Spirit, you will naturally begin to want to do good works. I am sure Slice will correct me if I am off base here.
 
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superdave1984 said:
If I recall, every blessing that the LORD promised came with a required action on the part of the blessed. Here's the promised land, it's yiurs, now go possess it. They had to go in and get what was theirs. Same applies today. If we want to receive the blessing, it requires action on our part. He isn't a genie that just grants wishes. Sometimes all that is required is faith, but we have to out that faith to work and do something. Push through the crowd to touch the hem. Cry out. Rip off a roof. It is my belief that when you truly repent and receive the Spirit, you will naturally begin to want to do good works. I am sure Slice will correct me if I am off base here.
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Nothing to disagree with here. Even messiah said that we were to take up our cross and follow
 
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Sorry to hear all this chief. I can certainly sympathize with a lot of it. Sometimes just getting up and out of bed is a win.

I don’t know how much you remember of what I went through in the underground days, but my daughter has cut me and my family off totally thanks to her mom. I’ve never told that on here so keep it between us and the thousands of Vol fans on here. It’s especially hard today.

I have my other kids though, and that’s a win. The point is get better so I can fight with you some more.

Holler if you need me.
 
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volsforever27 said:
Sorry to hear all this chief. I can certainly sympathize with a lot of it. Sometimes just getting up and out of bed is a win.

I don’t know how much you remember of what I went through in the underground days, but my daughter has cut me and my family off totally thanks to her mom. I’ve never told that on here so keep it between us and the thousands of Vol fans on here. It’s especially hard today.

I have my other kids though, and that’s a win. The point is get better so I can fight with you some more.

Holler if you need me.
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I remember it clearly my friend. I still keep you in my prayers. I’m sorry to hear that it’s not gotten better with your daughter.
I will continue praying for you….even though you suck.
 
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Man, I'm glad the fishing helped you today.

I'm also at a pretty bad place right now because of my wife's health. We've been together for 31 years, and the girls were 4 and 12 when we got together. I've always referred to them as my girls/daughters (they did not have and do not have a relationship with their biological father), and they have always referred to me as "dad." To the grandkids, I've always been "poppaw." One of the girls and two of the grandkids live with my wife and me.

So today is Father's Day, and I went over for a while this morning to spend some time with dad. His memory and mobility are worse by the day. He had mom upset yesterday over a bunch of crises and situations that do not exist (e.g., the yard needs mowing, there's water in the basement, the heat pump's not working right, the water's not hot enough, the toilets aren't flushing, etc., none of which is the case right now).

I was pretty down after that because my wife had a really bad week last week. When she has to be restrained and is combative, I only make the situation worse when I go up there. So today, she had the nurse call me, and she had more awareness than she's had since before she went to the hospital in March. I don't know what that means medically, but she was able to clearly enunciate "I love you" and "Thank you for help." No matter how much worse things get, I will have this memory. Given the way things have been going, I'll count that as a W.

So a few minutes ago, my oldest daughter brings the grandkids home and hands me a card. It had Han Solo on the front, but what she had written put me in a good place, at least for now.

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GordonC said:
Man, I'm glad the fishing helped you today.

I'm also at a pretty bad place right now because of my wife's health. We've been together for 31 years, and the girls were 4 and 12 when we got together. I've always referred to them as my girls/daughters (they did not have and do not have a relationship with their biological father), and they have always referred to me as "dad." To the grandkids, I've always been "poppaw." One of the girls and two of the grandkids live with my wife and me.

So today is Father's Day, and I went over for a while this morning to spend some time with dad. His memory and mobility are worse by the day. He had mom upset yesterday over a bunch of crises and situations that do not exist (e.g., the yard needs mowing, there's water in the basement, the heat pump's not working right, the water's not hot enough, the toilets aren't flushing, etc., none of which is the case right now).

I was pretty down after that because my wife had a really bad week last week. When she has to be restrained and is combative, I only make the situation worse when I go up there. So today, she had the nurse call me, and she had more awareness than she's had since before she went to the hospital in March. I don't know what that means medically, but she was able to clearly enunciate "I love you" and "Thank you for help." No matter how much worse things get, I will have this memory. Given the way things have been going, I'll count that as a W.

So a few minutes ago, my oldest daughter brings the grandkids home and hands me a card. It had Han Solo on the front, but what she had written put me in a good place, at least for now.

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I think about you a lot.
I can’t imagine how you’re coping and what you’ve been through. I not only pray for you but wish for the good things in life to come to you.
 
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GordonC said:
Man, I'm glad the fishing helped you today.

I'm also at a pretty bad place right now because of my wife's health. We've been together for 31 years, and the girls were 4 and 12 when we got together. I've always referred to them as my girls/daughters (they did not have and do not have a relationship with their biological father), and they have always referred to me as "dad." To the grandkids, I've always been "poppaw." One of the girls and two of the grandkids live with my wife and me.

So today is Father's Day, and I went over for a while this morning to spend some time with dad. His memory and mobility are worse by the day. He had mom upset yesterday over a bunch of crises and situations that do not exist (e.g., the yard needs mowing, there's water in the basement, the heat pump's not working right, the water's not hot enough, the toilets aren't flushing, etc., none of which is the case right now).

I was pretty down after that because my wife had a really bad week last week. When she has to be restrained and is combative, I only make the situation worse when I go up there. So today, she had the nurse call me, and she had more awareness than she's had since before she went to the hospital in March. I don't know what that means medically, but she was able to clearly enunciate "I love you" and "Thank you for help." No matter how much worse things get, I will have this memory. Given the way things have been going, I'll count that as a W.

So a few minutes ago, my oldest daughter brings the grandkids home and hands me a card. It had Han Solo on the front, but what she had written put me in a good place, at least for now.

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Much respect, Gordon. Well done.
 
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