War in Ukraine

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#79,951
MontyPython said:
G7 to loan Ukraine $50B from the profits on Russian frozen assets. Approved.

Also, US and others sign commitment to support Ukraine for another 10 years in a move designed to negate a potential Trump victory this fall. Approved.

Good day all around.
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why is it a loan? seems like the entire justification for seizing the Russian assets is because they wronged Ukraine. but they are going to make Ukraine pay for those seized funds that arose from their own suffering?
 
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LouderVol said:
why is it a loan? seems like the entire justification for seizing the Russian assets is because they wronged Ukraine. but they are going to make Ukraine pay for those seized funds that arose from their own suffering?
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The way that I read it, is that the G7 will make a loan to Ukraine for $50 Billion, and then the loan will be repaid with interest generated from the frozen $300 billion in Russian assets.

uk.news.yahoo.com

At G7, Biden to push $50B loan to Ukraine using frozen Russian assets

President Joe Biden's key priority at the G7 summit in Italy this week is to solidify an agreement that could provide some $50 billion to Ukraine using profits from frozen Russian assets, according to a source familiar with the matter. The U.S. argues this is a solution to relieve Ukraine’s...
uk.news.yahoo.com uk.news.yahoo.com
 
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BeardedVol said:
The way that I read it, is that the G7 will make a loan to Ukraine for $50 Billion, and then the loan will be repaid with interest generated from the frozen $300 billion in Russian assets.

uk.news.yahoo.com

At G7, Biden to push $50B loan to Ukraine using frozen Russian assets

President Joe Biden's key priority at the G7 summit in Italy this week is to solidify an agreement that could provide some $50 billion to Ukraine using profits from frozen Russian assets, according to a source familiar with the matter. The U.S. argues this is a solution to relieve Ukraine’s...
uk.news.yahoo.com uk.news.yahoo.com
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If this is true, seems Bitten wants to thaw the Siberian tundra and make the Russian economy ruble.
 
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LouderVol said:
this source doesn't have the information you are looking for. not sure why people keep asking as if its some kinda gotcha. thats not the point of it.

find the information and provide it. apparently it bothers you and you are curious, so go find it.
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It's no gotcha except that no one seems to be keeping up with the count. I know the posted source is bogus but I'm legit interested. I figured someone so locked in on providing stats to the board every day would be a good place to start.
 
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utvolpj said:
It's no gotcha except that no one seems to be keeping up with the count. I know the posted source is bogus but I'm legit interested. I figured someone so locked in on providing stats to the board every day would be a good place to start.
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so locked in? He uses one publicly available source. and rarely comments on it.

if you are curious go find it.
 
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LouderVol said:
so locked in? He uses one publicly available source. and rarely comments on it.

if you are curious go find it.
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A source called the kyiv independent. You're not at all curious why the kyiv independent wouldn't publish Ukranian casualty numbers? I mean, if anyone should have them
 
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utvolpj said:
A source called the kyiv independent. You're not at all curious why the kyiv independent wouldn't publish Ukranian casualty numbers? I mean, if anyone should have them
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I know why they don't. they are propaganda. plenty of other propaganda out there if you are actually curious.
 
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Per US doctrine, F16s to strike Crimean targets soon.

Ukrainian ATACMS Rockets Are Blowing Up Russia’s Best S-400 Air Defenses As Fast As The S-400s Can Deploy To Crimea​

 
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The West is continuing to squeeze Putin and Russia, and if the West stays the course, Russia could well implode. The strains are becoming
evident. It was positively stupid for the U.S. and Germany to wait so long before sending long-range missiles to Ukraine and allowing Ukraine
to hit targets in Russia. They handcuffed the Ukrainians even as they were trying to help them. It certainly seems that Ukraine can make things untenable for the Russian military in Crimea, and now we see the Russian economy beginning to suffer. The West needs to continue to work hard to keep sophisticated chips and electronic components from getting into Russia.
 
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TVOLS said:
Reports are the first S-500 system has been deployed in Crimea.
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Running out of 300s and 400s.

Throw in the prototype... why not.

SPOILER: New Russian garbage gonna look like this.

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BONUS: Profile view from Russian soil.

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turbovol said:
The West is continuing to squeeze Putin and Russia, and if the West stays the course, Russia could well implode. The strains are becoming
evident. It was positively stupid for the U.S. and Germany to wait so long before sending long-range missiles to Ukraine and allowing Ukraine
to hit targets in Russia. They handcuffed the Ukrainians even as they were trying to help them. It certainly seems that Ukraine can make things untenable for the Russian military in Crimea, and now we see the Russian economy beginning to suffer. The West needs to continue to work hard to keep sophisticated chips and electronic components from getting into Russia.
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The Russians aren't smart, but they are crafty. They use old washing machine computer chips that have been thrown into landfills to create their shovels.

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utvolpj said:
It's no gotcha except that no one seems to be keeping up with the count. I know the posted source is bogus but I'm legit interested. I figured someone so locked in on providing stats to the board every day would be a good place to start.
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I'd say it's somewhere just shy of what the Russians have lost. With no air superiority from either side, the laws a ground wars state that the one on the attack suffers more casualties, while the defender suffers less. Since Russia has been on the attack more often then they would naturally suffer a few more casualties.
 
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