2024 Presidential Race

[85SugarVol]

I've made this suggestion many times for America's Earls.

I don’t doubt at all you’ve championed putting your fellow citizens in camps. Not for one second.

You’re real scum.

 

[McDad]

I've made this suggestion many times for America's Earls.

Oof.

That's a bad look back then and even worse on your double down today.

 

[85SugarVol]

Are there any doubts that @turbovol was ready to “confine the unvaccinated against their will to secure, designated facilities”?

For the record - I posted this before Turbo came right out and admitted it.

I've made this suggestion many times for America's Earls.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Exclusive: Widow of D.C. police officer Jeff Smith, who died by suicide, says battling rioters on Jan. 6 "changed him"

Bodycam footage obtained by CBS News shows Jeff Smith was struck in the head with a metal pole.

www.cbsnews.com

^^^^ Below is a paragraph from the above article. ^^^^

"Earlier this month, Erin Smith received an email from Washington D.C., with the result she had spent more than a year fighting for. The city had ruled that her husband's suicide was caused by injuries sustained in battling the rioters, and as such, his death was found to have occurred in the line of duty."

 

[85SugarVol]

Oh, there were many who either by irrational fear or subservience to their government-god were championing dictatorial directives on those who were being rational.
The covid thread had moments of extremism rarely seen before.

Covid was an amazing prism through which we could actually see who favored totalitarian rule.

 

[DC_Vol]

Oh, there were many who either by irrational fear or subservience to their government-god were championing dictatorial directives on those who were being rational.
The covid thread had moments of extremism rarely seen before.

It just shows despite more available information than ever, human nature does not change. The majority of people can be easily scared and manipulated to justify about anything.

Guarantee you it wouldn’t have been that hard to get half the country behind executing those who were accused of spreading COVID disinformation.

 

[85SugarVol]

Exclusive: Widow of D.C. police officer Jeff Smith, who died by suicide, says battling rioters on Jan. 6 "changed him"

Bodycam footage obtained by CBS News shows Jeff Smith was struck in the head with a metal pole.

www.cbsnews.com

^^^^ Below is a paragraph from the above article. ^^^^

"Earlier this month, Erin Smith received an email from Washington D.C., with the result she had spent more than a year fighting for. The city had ruled that her husband's suicide was caused by injuries sustained in battling the rioters, and as such, his death was found to have occurred in the line of duty."

Which I imagine entitled her to increased benefits. Good for her. She’ll need them now.

Suicide is not caused by injuries.

“D.C.” saying so doesn’t make it so.

 

[BowlBrother85]

A suicide is not “caused” by injuries. That is completely nonsensical.

Death from brain bleed due to injuries sustained would be “caused”.

Suicide is a willful, deliberate act. It is not “due to injuries”.

Read Post # 19,029 of this thread. Read the CBS News article from which it was quoted from. I posted the relevant excerpt below the article. Apparently, you don't get to rule on such matters.

 

[volfanhill]

Oh, there were many who either by irrational fear or subservience to their government-god were championing dictatorial directives on those who were being rational.
The covid thread had moments of extremism rarely seen before.

I will forever be ashamed of some of my positons at that time. I learned a great lesson. One I thought I already knew.

 

[luthervol]

You advocated for a group of military leaders to have the ability to overrule the POTUS. The constitutional appointed leader of our military is the POTUS. How are you confused? A junta is a committee of military leaders making decisions. It's just another example of you hating our constitutional republic designed government.

Now do I believe you actualy want that form of governance for everything? No. But clearly you do when it comes to military decisions. And I hope your smart enough to see how that can backfire.

Technically it's only a junta if the military group gains control by force....so there's that.

It's not only a right but a duty to defy an illegal order. I'll put insane orders with global catastrophic consequences in the pool of illegal orders. But hey, maybe that's just me......nah.....probably not

 

[BowlBrother85]

Which I imagine entitled her to increased benefits. Good for her. She’ll need them now.

Suicide is not caused by injuries.

“D.C.” saying so doesn’t make it so.

.... and your saying that suicide can't be caused by injuries doesn't make it so either. At least in this matter, however, the opinion of "D.C." seems to carry more weight than yours does.

 

[EasternVol]

You contradicted yourself in the same sentence.

That's not a contradiction. Protests don't necessarily entail violence.

 

[85SugarVol]

Read Post # 19,029 of this thread. Read the CBS News article from which it was quoted from. I posted the relevant excerpt below the article. Apparently, you don't get to rule on such matters.

And you’re of the opinion that DC bureaucrats do?

Them saying something as outlandishly preposterous as a “suicide was caused by injuries” doesn’t make it so.

 

[luthervol]

Yes it was stupid on your part. Be a little more self aware

lol......You guys can't pin your misunderstandings and lack of comprehension on me.....but I know you think you can.

 

[hog88]

Covid was an amazing prism through which we could actually see who favored totalitarian rule.

It brought out the true nature of a lot of people.

 

[85SugarVol]

.... and your saying that suicide can't be caused by injuries doesn't make it so either. At least in this matter, however, the opinion of "D.C." seems to carry more weight than yours does.

For the purposes of awarding benefits due to “dying in the line of duty”? Sure.

But it doesn’t make it true.

 

[McDad]

I will forever be ashamed of some of my positons at that time. I learned a great lesson. One I thought I already knew.

Mistakes, errors, bad calls are not the problem. Those are the opportunity to learn, mature, and grow. Hopefully we're all learning until our time expires.

 

[85SugarVol]

That's not a contradiction. Protests don't necessarily entail violence.

Those did.

They resulted in death, destruction, $Billions in property damage.

 

[turbovol]

Which I imagine entitled her to increased benefits. Good for her. She’ll need them now.

Suicide is not caused by injuries.

“D.C.” saying so doesn’t make it so.

Stop trying to whitewash a terrible event, Earl. You've been embarrassing yourself. You're all pathetic hypocrites with respect to Jan. 6. All the formerly self-styled "patriots."

 

[85SugarVol]

I will forever be ashamed of some of my positons at that time. I learned a great lesson. One I thought I already knew.

I was convinced “2 weeks to stop the spread” was the right thing to do.

AllVol tried to tell me it was only the beginning. I refused to listen. And then I saw. Painful lesson.

 

[85SugarVol]

Stop trying to whitewash a terrible event, Earl. You've been embarrassing yourself. You're all pathetic hypocrites with respect to Jan. 6. All the formerly self-styled "patriots."

You just admitted to the entire board you want to put your fellow Americans in camps.

Spare us the “embarrassing yourself” lectures.

 

[volfanhill]

I was convinced “2 weeks to stop the spread” was the right thing to do.

AllVol tried to tell me it was only the beginning. I refused to listen. And then I saw. Painful lesson.

Very similar to me

 

[BowlBrother85]

For the purposes of awarding benefits due to “dying in the line of duty”? Sure.

But it doesn’t make it true.

The man killed himself just 9 days later ..... and he had sustained a head injury during the riot. He can be seen on video being beaten over the head with a metal baton. Could he have had other underlying problems? Probably. It's definitely plausible that the trauma and physical injuries he sustained during the riot pushed him over the edge.

 

[85SugarVol]

Very similar to me

I was downright ugly to him in those arguments. One of my biggest regrets, and embarrassments.

 

[McDad]

I was convinced “2 weeks to stop the spread” was the right thing to do.

AllVol tried to tell me it was only the beginning. I refused to listen. And then I saw. Painful lesson.

2 weeks to shorten the curve was not a bad strategy because so much was unknown.

But I thought it became clear soon enough the elderly and immunocompromised were the ones at risk. We should have handled the new info and made adjustments to our strategy.

Still to this day I never understood why the outdoors were shut down. That seemed the exact opposite of good strategy.