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85SugarVol said:
Zero capitol police officers died as a result of the Capitol riot.

Zero.
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That's not entirely true.

www.theguardian.com

Fourth officer who responded to US Capitol attack dies by suicide

Kyle DeFreytag, who was deployed to protect Capitol after police cleared building of rioters, died earlier in July
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In the 7 months which followed the Capitol riot, 4 Capitol Police Officers committed suicide. In each case, their family members cited post-traumatic stress from January 6th as the reason behind the suicide.

The "Party of Law and Order" should care about them. The right-wing has sought only to downplay the events of January 6, 2021. It is despicable.
 
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I found this absolutely horrifying. It’s bad enough that a large group of Americans would be so willing to take away the civil liberties of their fellow citizens, but to have that opinion based upon erroneous views with respect to the protections offered by the vaccines makes this doubly bad
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And, remind us who exactly pushed the erroneous views regarding the mRNA shots...
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's not entirely true.

www.theguardian.com

Fourth officer who responded to US Capitol attack dies by suicide

Kyle DeFreytag, who was deployed to protect Capitol after police cleared building of rioters, died earlier in July
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

In the 7 months which followed the Capitol riot, 4 Capitol Police Officers committed suicide. In each case, their family members cited post-traumatic stress from January 6th as the reason behind the suicide.

The "Party of Law and Order" should care about them. The right-wing has sought only to downplay the events of January 6, 2021. It is despicable.
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You really believe that LEOs with training and experience in gun violence, murder, overdoses, car accidents, etc had PTSD after they peacefully escorted unarmed citizens around the Capitol? You can't really be that gullible.
 
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TheDirector said:
One person died who was shot by an officer. One officer died of natural causes.

By comparison, 19 people died during the BLM 2020 riots and 150 federal buildings were set on fire. In addition to the 1000s of stores that were looted.
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Two or three Capitol Police officers committed suicide soon, or not long, after the attack on the Capitol. I don't condone violence of any kind--but the BLM protests originated because of a legitimate social grievance. There was nothing legitimate about the attack on the Capitol. Also, the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capital was directly created by our loathsome president at the time and his lies about the vote fraud. Big difference.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You really believe that LEOs with training and experience in gun violence, murder, overdoses, car accidents, etc had PTSD after they peacefully escorted unarmed citizens around the Capitol? You can't really be that gullible.
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It's what their family members believed ... Some of them even testified to that before Congress. Are they gullible too?

Your assertion that they were just peacefully escorting unarmed citizens around the Capitol is so wrong that it can only be explained by your tribal nature.

.... and should someone from the party of Q Anon, PizzaGate and 2020 election denial be calling someone else "gullible?" I think not.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's what their family members believed ... Some of them even testified to that before Congress. Are they gullible too?

.... and should someone from the party of Q Anon, PizzaGate and 2020 election denial be calling someone else "gullible?" I think not.
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Families are always looking for someone to blame. Doesn't mean it holds any water
 
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Boston Vol said:
He had a homophobic comment deleted last week. It always amazes me that the people who preach tolerance are the first ones to make gay/homophobic jokes or remarks.
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Now hold on, with the recent antisemitism receiving social approval perhaps homophobia is en vogue again.
 
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volfanhill said:
Despicable? Factual. They have no clue what caused it. Aside from mental illness. And I've been for tossing anyone who broke the law right in jail the entire time
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One of the wives cited it from a suicide note which was left behind. She testified to this before the January 6th Committee. You are wrong.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's not entirely true.

www.theguardian.com

Fourth officer who responded to US Capitol attack dies by suicide

Kyle DeFreytag, who was deployed to protect Capitol after police cleared building of rioters, died earlier in July
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

In the 7 months which followed the Capitol riot, 4 Capitol Police Officers committed suicide. In each case, their family members cited post-traumatic stress from January 6th as the reason behind the suicide.

The "Party of Law and Order" should care about them. The right-wing has sought only to downplay the events of January 6, 2021. It is despicable.
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So exactly as I said -

85SugarVol said:
Zero capitol police officers died as a result of the Capitol riot.

Zero.
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All you have is speculation from grieving family members trying to make sense of their loved one deciding to take their own life. Months after the fact.
 
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#18,996
kiddiedoc said:
Nice discussion here:

Opinion: The false 'pandemic of the unvaccinated' motto did lasting harm
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There was nothing divisive about Biden urging American's to get vaxxed, even if some Earls who are not community-minded and who allowed themselves to be politicized by Covid and the country's response to the health crisis perceived it that way in their ignorance. There was a global health crisis--a serious global health crisis. Huge numbers of people were dying and getting sick. But apparently because huge numbers of people weren't dying in rube-land, rubes didn't take the situation too seriously--and didn't want to. Health experts urged Americans to get vaccinated to keep from being hospitalized should they get the virus. The president was trying to protect the health of Americans during a crisis--and repeating what health experts were advising. Anybody who perceives a president trying to protect the health of America as being "divisive" is a deeply misguided fool.

If this is the best you've got to support your assertion of Biden being "divisive," you have nothing--and there is nothing. You'll find genuine divisiveness in the candidate from the other party---the gangster.
 
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This list surprised me:
WHAT ARE THE JOBS WITH HIGHEST SUICIDE RATES?
1. Medical Doctors
2. Dentists
3. Police Officers
4. Veterinarians
5. Financial Services
6. Real Estate Agents
7. Electricians
8. Lawyers
9. Farmers
10. Pharmacists
 
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#18,998
85SugarVol said:
So exactly as I said -



All you have is speculation from grieving family members trying to make sense of their loved one deciding to take their own life. Months after the fact.
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You might be right if there wasn't at least one suicide note left behind ..... but there was. This has been covered before.
 
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turbovol said:
Two or three Capitol Police officers committed suicide soon, or not long, after the attack on the Capitol. I don't condone violence of any kind--but the BLM protests originated because of a legitimate social grievance. There was nothing legitimate about the attack on the Capitol. Also, the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capital was directly created by our loathsome president at the time and his lies about the vote fraud. Big difference.
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You contradicted yourself in the same sentence.
 
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