2024 Presidential Race

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TN Ribs said:
Fine with me, I could care less about someone’s religious beliefs, gender, race, etc.
Their character and integrity matters most and Trump has neither.
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Name me 3 politicians in office right now that you would look to and refer your closest kin to as people and models of great character and integrity.


Just 3.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Name me 3 politicians in office right now that you would look to and refer your closest kin to as people and models of great character and integrity.


Just 3.
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I could name far more than three but I refuse to play your nonsensical game. It’s simply your attempt to deflect because you know that you can’t defend Trump’s integrity or character. That’s your problem, not mine.
 
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TN Ribs said:
I could name far more than three but I refuse to play your nonsensical game. It’s simply your attempt to deflect because you know that you can’t defend Trump’s integrity or character. That’s your problem, not mine.
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You can’t name 3 or else you would.

I’m not trying to defend Trump. He has no humility. He’s selfish. Etc. I don’t want my children to look to him as a role model.

I’m merely pointing out choosing politicians (these days) based on character and integrity is ignorant. I’ll vote for Trump because of the 3 candidates to choose from His policy positions closest align with mine. I do have to take into account that he’s easily swayed meaning those positions may change. BUT I feel confident He, more than the other 2, will lead this country in the right direction.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Name me 3 politicians in office right now that you would look to and refer your closest kin to as people and models of great character and integrity.


Just 3.
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I'll try. Do they have to be effective political leaders to qualify or just people holding (or have held) an office?
 
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McDad said:
I'll try. Do they have to be effective political leaders to qualify or just people holding (or have held) an office?
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Holding office.

(Also. I’m sure YOU can find 3. BUT I doubt they will be very well known. Let’s see what you come up with.)
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Holding office.

(Also. I’m sure YOU can find 3. BUT I doubt they will be very well known. Let’s see what you come up with.)
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Ok. I'm gonna try to do this without any search engine help.

Mike Pence. Weird by our standards but seems to be high character to a fault.

Mitt Romney. Not a good leader but good character and integrity.

Tulsi Gabbard.

That was very difficult.

How'd I score?

ETA: I just realized all 3 are no longer holding office. Epic fail.
 
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McDad said:
Ok. I'm gonna try to do this without any search engine help.

Mike Pence. Weird by our standards but seems to be high character to a fault.

Mitt Romney. Not a good leader but good character and integrity.

Tulsi Gabbard.

That was very difficult.

How'd I score?
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I’ll give you 2 out of those 3.

I’m not buying Mitt Romney. But that’s my personal opinion.

Look, I’m not saying every single representative is an evil, lying, snake in the grass. I’m just saying if we are looking for individuals of high character and great integrity, DC isn’t the place to look imo. Sure, if we compare them to eachother, some will emerge as generally well intentioned.

The guy that works his a** off to put food on the table. Is generous with his time and money. Cares greatly for those around him. Sacrifices his wants and desires for his family and friends. Has a desire to do things the right way, every time etc. Are those types in DC? Maybe. But they certainly aren’t running for President in 2024. So I’ll vote for the one that closest aligns to my policy positions.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
I’ll give you 2 out of those 3.

I’m not buying Mitt Romney. But that’s my personal opinion.

Look, I’m not saying every single representative is an evil, lying, snake in the grass. I’m just saying if we are looking for individuals of high character and great integrity, DC isn’t the place to look imo. Sure, if we compare them to eachother, some will emerge as generally well intentioned.

The guy that works his a** off to put food on the table. Is generous with his time and money. Cares greatly for those around him. Sacrifices his wants and desires for his family and friends. Has a desire to do things the right way, every time etc. Are those types in DC? Maybe. But they certainly aren’t running for President in 2024. So I’ll vote for the one that closest aligns to my policy positions.
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Completely agree with your premise. The people on this board are far better than just about anybody in DC especially the ones running for president.

It took me about 10 minutes to come up with those three. It wasn't an easy task. Which illustrates your point.
 
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apnews.com

Trump is selling 'God Bless the USA' Bibles for $59.99 as he faces mounting legal bills

Former President Donald Trump is hawking Bibles as he runs to return to the White House. The presumptive Republican nominee Tuesday released a video on his Truth Social platform urging supporters to buy the “God Bless the USA Bible."
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Trump's persona as conman-in-chief is 100 % complete.

And of all the people to be hocking Bibles... the irony !
 
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McDad said:
Ok. I'm gonna try to do this without any search engine help.

Mike Pence. Weird by our standards but seems to be high character to a fault.

Mitt Romney. Not a good leader but good character and integrity.

Tulsi Gabbard.

That was very difficult.

How'd I score?

ETA: I just realized all 3 are no longer holding office. Epic fail.
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I must disagree with you on Romney and him being of high character. I tend to believe people of high character will stick to their beliefs, Romney flaps in the wind like a towel on a clothes line, he goes wherever the political winds are blowing and thinks will benefit him.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Name me 3 politicians in office right now that you would look to and refer your closest kin to as people and models of great character and integrity.


Just 3.
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Are you suggesting there aren't any? Or aren't many? There are a lot. Every individual in Congress right now--House and Senate--as more character and integrity than Trump. Every one. I wouldn't have said that of Santos, of course--but he got kicked out of Congress. A gangster wannable. That's not to say--at all--that every person in Congress has a high level of integrity and character, but they all have more than Trump. There are PLENTY of crackpots and idiots in the House, a few in the Senate--but even those people are decent human beings. Trump is not a decent human being. He's completely indecent in every possible way.
 
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hog88 said:
I must disagree with you on Romney and him being of high character. I tend to believe people of high character will stick to their beliefs, Romney flaps in the wind like a towel on a clothes line, he goes wherever the political winds are blowing and thinks will benefit him.
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I'm not a huge fan of Romney...but if that was true all the time, then wouldn't he have gotten on the Trump Train? Today, he is completely out of step from where the political winds in his own party are blowing.
 
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turbovol said:
Are you suggesting there aren't any? Or aren't many? There are a lot. Every individual in Congress right now--House and Senate--as more character and integrity than Trump. Every one. I wouldn't have said that of Santos, of course--but he got kicked out of Congress. A gangster wannable. That's not to say--at all--that every person in Congress has a high level of integrity and character, but they all have more than Trump. There are PLENTY of crackpots and idiots in the House, a few in the Senate--but even those people are decent human beings. Trump is not a decent human being. He's completely indecent in every possible way.
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Boy that's a high bar.
 
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www.newsweek.com

Donald Trump attacks judge's daughter less than 24 hours after gag order

Trump posted again about Judge Juan Merchan and his daughter on Wednesday after being hit with a gag order the day before.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

There are 3 things you can always count on happening during a legal proceeding involving Donald Trump :

1) Donald Trump will personally attack the judge presiding over the case (unless it's Aileen Cannon), and a member of the judge's family.

2) If it's a criminal proceeding, Donald Trump will also personally attack the District Attorney, and claim that he is just an innocent victim of political persecution and bias. Trump will call it a "witch hunt." Donald Trump loves to play the victim card. There is always some type of "Whoa is me" post to social media with the whole point being self-pity. Donald Trump also loves to feel sorry for himself and beg for public sympathy in the process.

3) Donald Trump will make veiled threats involving "bloodbaths," riots and other such acts of mass violence to come, if he is found guilty in a criminal proceeding or liable in a civil proceeding.

^^^^ None of this is a show of strength. ^^^^

Donald Trump is not a fighter. Donald Trump is a whiner, and typical of a narcissist, the only person he is capable of expressing sympathy for is himself. Donald Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm not a huge fan of Romney...but if that was true all the time, then wouldn't he have gotten on the Trump Train? Today, he is completely out of step from where the political winds in his own party are blowing.
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No. I think he was looking at it the same way Cheney was, thought opposing Trump would be most beneficial for him.
 
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hog88 said:
I must disagree with you on Romney and him being of high character. I tend to believe people of high character will stick to their beliefs, Romney flaps in the wind like a towel on a clothes line, he goes wherever the political winds are blowing and thinks will benefit him.
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Romney is of much higher character and intelligence than the majority of Republicans in Congress. Nobody in Congress sticks fully to their beliefs as compromising comes with being a politician---we don't do nearly enough of it these days, to say the least--and Reps and Senators will stick with their party on certain issues even if they're not in full agreement with the party line.
 
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hog88 said:
No. I think he was looking at it the same way Cheney was, thought opposing Trump would be most beneficial for him.
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That is stupid. There is no way in hell that Liz Cheney thought opposing Trump would be politically beneficial to her in a state like Wyoming. Damn, that was a ridiculous thing to say. She voted with Trump's stated position as much as anyone in the House of Reps.
 
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