2024 Presidential Race

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#14,576
SpaceCoastVol said:
Have you ever heard of Luthervol? He represents the anti Trump voter to a tee. They would rather watch the country burn. They are psychotic.
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Yeah. I wouldn’t ask Luther. He would rather see humanity suffer extinction than see Trump lead America into prosperity. I don’t find BB to be as ridiculous. And I do remember that he supported Tulsi. So I figured I could get an honest opinion of a hypothetical Trump/Gabbard ticket.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Really just trying to gauge what it would take for an Anti-Trumper to cast a ballot for a Trump Ticket.

The thinking behind Tulsi is that it would pull in moderate dems, independents, etc. knowing Trump supporters will vote for Trump regardless. BUT I have a hard time believing that. It would be a risky play.

Btw. I would take President Rodgers over President Harris. And it isn’t even close!
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I still wouldn't vote for Trump, but I would hate him less with Tulsi Gabbard as VP, provided that she didn't change her positions on anything .... but how could she not do some serious flip-flopping, and run on a Republican Party ticket?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Actually, I was referring to white people who are racist...
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I don't know of any, and that would run antithetical to being a Democrat. Most white Democrats are attracted to the party, because of it's cultural diversity. That was the case with me. I looked at the GOP, and I saw Archie Bunker. I looked at the Democratic Party and I saw Meathead. I preferred Meathead.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I still wouldn't vote for Trump, but I would hate him less with Tulsi Gabbard as VP, provided that she didn't change her positions on anything .... but how could she not do some serious flip-flopping, and run on a Republican Party ticket?
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Yeah. I could see her in his cabinet (if she campaigned for him). Hard to see her as his VP. But very little shocks me these days.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Yeah. I could see her in his cabinet (if she campaigned for him). Hard to see her as his VP. But very little shocks me these days.
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I will try to find the article. It was in Time .... where it said that Joe Biden considered asking Tulsi Gabbard to be his running mate, but didn't because his campaign thought that it was too easy to label her a socialist and an extremist .... and they had to get away from those labels. LOL.

Can you imagine? Biden didn't want her because she was too far left .... but then she ends up being on a Republican Party ticket 4 years later? LOL. Only in America.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't know of any, and that would run antithetical to being a Democrat. Most white Democrats are attracted to the party, because of it's cultural diversity. That was the case with me. I looked at the GOP, and I saw Archie Bunker. I looked at the Democratic Party and I saw Meathead. I preferred Meathead.
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Ironic...

You see, I see plenty of racist white people on the left side of the political spectrum. You see, liberal whites are racist because they believe they have to help because they are white. They inherently believe that someone of a different color is automatically at a disadvantage in any situation.

So, instead of being overt like white supremacist groups are in the fact they don't like the color of one's skin, liberal whites are covertly racist because they believe people of color can't help themselves...

And believe by being white they have an automatic advantage over people of color to "change" and "help." Hence, a racist belief they are superior to others that don't look like them.

Liberals are actually just as or more racist than white supremacists due to the dangerous belief the color of their skin gives them an advantage.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Ironic...

You see, I see plenty of racist white people on the left side of the political spectrum. You see, liberal whites are racist because they believe they have to help because they are white. They inherently believe that someone of a different color is automatically at a disadvantage in any situation.

So, instead of being overt like white supremacist groups are in the fact they don't like the color of one's skin, liberal whites are covertly racist because they believe people of color can't help themselves...

And believe by being white they have an automatic advantage over people of color to "change" and "help." Hence, a racist belief they are superior to others that don't look like them.

Liberals are actually just as or more racist than white supremacists due to the dangerous belief the color of their skin gives them an advantage.
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Posted this is another thread. But it fits here too. Not sure what study she is citing. But I’ve seen this with liberal friends of mine. They take the role of “White Savior”. Poor little colored people. They need our help!
 
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Grand Vol said:
You see, liberal whites are racist because they believe they have to help because they are white. They inherently believe that someone of a different color is automatically at a disadvantage in any situation.
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You are referring to liberal Caucasians who are genuinely trying to assist African-Americans, but who are, in some cases, misguided in their efforts. That isn't racism. It's not having an understanding of the best way to be of assistance.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Liberals are actually just as or more racist than white supremacists due to the dangerous belief the color of their skin gives them an advantage.
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LOL.

You don't think that white supremacists believe that they are better than black people, because of the color of their own skin? That is just as dumb as what @LibertyVol was saying earlier.

In some instances, white liberals may be misguided in their efforts to bring about equality, but that is a much different perspective to have, than white supremacist groups who burn crosses, and political parties who gerrymander districts in such a way as to collectively diminish the importance of the black vote.

You are straining credulity, because you want to convince yourself that Democrats are "the real racists." It's bull $hit.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL.

You don't think that white supremacists believe that they are better than black people, because of the color of their own skin? That is just as dumb as what @LibertyVol was saying earlier.

In some instances, white liberals may be misguided in their efforts to bring about equality, but that is a much different perspective to have, than white supremacist groups who burn crosses, and political parties who gerrymander districts in such a way as to collectively diminish the importance of the black vote.

You are straining credulity, because you want to convince yourself that Democrats are "the real racists." It's bull $hit.
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It's no more racist to believe people of color are lesser and shouldn't be afforded opportunities than it is to believe people of color are lesser and have to be granted extra opportunities.
 
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hog88 said:
It's no more racist to believe people of color are lesser and shouldn't be afforded opportunities than it is to believe people of color are lesser and have to be granted extra opportunities.
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It's obviously not racist...

It's "misguided."

It's only racist when it's conservative.
 
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hog88 said:
It's no more racist to believe people of color are lesser and shouldn't be afforded opportunities than it is to believe people of color are lesser and have to be granted extra opportunities.
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apnews.com

White supremacist gets life in prison for Buffalo massacre

A white supremacist who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo supermarket has been sentenced to life parole.
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^^^^ This white supremacist killed 10 people in a grocery store in Buffalo, New York .... just because they were black.

Call me crazy ..... but I think that's more of a racist act than advocating for Affirmative Action.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
apnews.com

White supremacist gets life in prison for Buffalo massacre

A white supremacist who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo supermarket has been sentenced to life parole.
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^^^^ This white supremacist killed 10 people in a grocery store in Buffalo, New York .... just because they were black.

Call me crazy ..... but I think that's more of a racist act than advocating for Affirmative Action.
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Of course, go to the most extreme examples you can find.

"The soft bigotry of low expectations" is still bigotry.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It isn't more racist when the objective is to help rather than to hinder .... or destroy. See post #14,589 from up above.
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It is when your "help" is fashioned in a way to keep people dependent on the help or you think they need help simply due to their skin color.
 
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hog88 said:
Of course, go to the most extreme examples you can find.

"The soft bigotry of low expectations" is still bigotry.
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You idiots are arguing that advocating for such things as Affirmative Action is more racist and dangerous than white supremacy. You asked for this.

Let me know when someone advocating for Affirmative Action murders 10 people just because they are black .... and we'll talk.
 
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hog88 said:
It is when your "help" is fashioned in a way to keep people dependent on the help or you think they need help simply due to their skin color.
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You are saying that advocating for Affirmative Action is just as bad as mass murder? You are so intelligent. LOL.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You idiots are arguing that advocating for such things as Affirmative Action is more racist and dangerous than white supremacy. You asked for this.

Let me know when someone advocating for Affirmative Action murders 10 people just because they are black .... and we'll talk.
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No, I'm arguing that they are the same. Both are examples of white supremacy.

On one hand you have white dirtbags that believe people should be segregated and discriminated against because of their skin color.
On the other you have white dirtbags that believe people cannot succeed without their "help" because of their skin color.

Both are equally racist. The difference is one hates and the other pitties but both think being white makes them superior.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Liberals are actually just as or more racist than white supremacists due to the dangerous belief the color of their skin gives them an advantage.
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hog88 said:
Both are equally racist. The difference is one hates and the other pitties but both think being white makes them superior.
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Yeah .... You guys are so intelligent. How does one go about trying to wage a debate with such intellects as yourselves? LOL.


In all seriousness .... You guys are a couple of clowns, who have a need to believe that Democrats are "the real racists," when the facts say something much different. It's tribalism at it's worst.
 
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VOLS INC. said:


Posted this is another thread. But it fits here too. Not sure what study she is citing. But I’ve seen this with liberal friends of mine. They take the role of “White Savior”. Poor little colored people. They need our help!
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This is basically the same thing as white leftists saying that voter ID laws are racist, therefore implying that people of color have a hard time getting an ID or incapable of doing so.
 
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