2024 Presidential Race

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SpaceCoastVol said:
Even some of the horrible processes had good outcomes. For example: Mengele's experiments with hypothermia. Yes he killed hundreds of people in the process, but should those peoples' deaths be relegated to the 'vain' category in that we should throw out the data from those experiments? That would be an even bigger insult to their memories imho. Condemn Mengele for being the satanic butcher he was, and don't praise him for the data he obtained, but for God's sake and for the memories of those that had no choice and died in the process, let their memories live in the lives that are/will be saved going forward from that knowledge gained.
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What the hell is wrong with you? How about Mengele's experiments on twin children?



I doubt any of their parents took any solace from those experiments .... which for the most part yielded absolutely nothing of value to the scientific community.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
I definitely agree with the bold.

John F. Kelly has been smearing Trump for years now. Wasn't he pretty much forced to resign mid appointment?

My present cynicism of this most recent criticism is two fold.
1st, Why wait this many years, after several previous criticisms, to pull out the Nazi card? Or is this alleged Hitler praise by Trump nothing new coming from John F. Kelly?

2nd, Trump's purported ignorance as to Hitler's level of loyalty from the High Command is shallow. Even for Trump that's shallow, and I'm not trying to carry water for Trump.

John F. Kelly's past criticisms of Trump may very well be valid and spot on. The Nazi card and the timing of this one seems a little too convenient for me.
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Seems like Kelly may have made the statement a couple of years ago or so, but his criticisms are validated by the fact that others close to Trump have made similar criticisms.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
You can't even come up with your own syndrome without plagiarizing. Telling.

And no, you support Biden. You are trying really hard to reconcile that in your mind, but every ballot is marked "for" someone. Not against. What you are trying so desperately hard to sell here isn't worth doodly squat, and nobody is buying it.
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BDS!!!!! On full display.

Biden living rent free in your head. (another overused and nonsensical comment)

A ballot against trump = a ballot for Biden. Just the way it is.

I voted for Haley in the GA primary - and certainly not because I support Haley - same thing.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What the hell is wrong with you? How about Mengele's experiments on twin children?



I doubt any of their parents took any solace from those experiments .... which for the most part yielded absolutely nothing of value to the scientific community.
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seriously? did I say anything remotely like 'everything he did yielded beneficial results'. ANYTHING like that at all? And why the F don't you try to read for a little modicum of comprehension for a change? Your post is asinine.

But then again, you probably support Fauci who is every bit the evil POS that Menbgele was, and his experiments on humans yielded results on how to make a biological weapon.

Save your ****ing sanctimony.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
Hate to break it you, but I've never voted for Trump, carried water for Trump, nor supported 'MAGA'. You didn't remotely answer my question either you sanctimonious idiot. Autocrat wannabe, delusional authoritarian, blah..blah..blah.. That still doesn't answer my question as to why Kelly would sit on this until now.

This is a Wendy's. You've been told to stay at your fry station and keep away from the drive-thru window.
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None of us can answer for Kelly. Him just now bringing this to light is something to consider. Now if I have to choose between him and Trump, as to who is more believable, then trump loses that debate. Well, at least based on my current awareness of Kelly’s track record. That's the problem with being trump. His known, proven, and public statements, lies, and dishonesty make him have zero credibility. Same as Biden on that front. Neither get the benefit of doubt. And it does bother me that Tillerson, Mattis, and Barr have all had terrible things to say about him.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Would it really surprise you if the Clinton's are involved in human trafficking? Bill especially since he was a "visitor" to Epstein's Island. Do you think Bill was there bird watching on the patio while smoking cigars? Word on the street is ole Slick Willie likes them young.
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Yes it would. That's a pretty high risk hobby, especially for someone in their position who's always under scrutiny.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am convinced that some significant portion of Trump's seeming countenance of Putin or Kim, even if Hitler, is the shock value he gets out of people for being contrarian and portraying himself as having some larger insight into history. As though he's above the fray of common thinking about these actors.
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Naay: it has nothing to do with shock value. He's vain, very emotionally needy and, by nature, a bully and a mobster. A longtime mob lawyer was his mentor when he was a young businessman. He's big on "loyalty"--a fundamental mob thing. He craves praise and power; he's spent his entire adult life promoting himself--usually fraudulently. He likes dictators because they are essentially mob bosses. That is the word he used to praise Orban--"he's the boss and can do what he wants to do." You can look up the exact quote--but that's very much what he said. He's amoral: the fact that Putin murders opponents, invades sovereign countries and kills thousands of innocents, destroys cities means nothing to Trump. The fact that Putin has spent decades trying to undermine the democratic West means nothing to him: He probably doesn't even realize it. I'll bet that Trump--ex-president--has NEVER read a book on U.S. foreign policy. He doesn't read!

He simply admires Putin because he can do what he wants whereas a U.S. president has constraints on his power. That is the beauty of our system. All of the moronic claptrap about "the deep state" was the gangster lashing out at people who resisted various crazy/stupid/authoritarian ideas he had---like having a USSR-style, May Day-lke mililtary parade down Constitution Ave., with tanks and rocket launchers and all the rest. He's a complete idiot who does not respect our system, our government, our laws--or anybody but himself.
 
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turbovol said:
Naay: it has nothing to do with shock value. He's vain, very emotionally needy and, by nature, a bully and a mobster. A longtime mob lawyer was his mentor when he was a young businessman. He's big on "loyalty"--a fundamental mob thing. He craves praise and power; he's spent his entire adult life promoting himself--usually fraudulently. He likes dictators because they are essentially mob bosses. That is the word he used to praise Orban--"he's the boss and can do what he wants to do." You can look up the exact quote--but that's very much what he said. He's amoral: the fact that Putin murders opponents, invades sovereign countries and kills thousands of innocents, destroys cities means nothing to Trump. The fact that Putin has spent decades trying to undermine the democratic West means nothing to him: He probably doesn't even realize it. I'll bet that Trump--ex-president--has NEVER read a book on U.S. foreign policy. He doesn't read!

He simply admires Putin because he can do what he wants whereas a U.S. president has constraints on his power. That is the beauty of our system. All of the moronic claptrap about "the deep state" was the gangster lashing out at people who resisted various crazy/stupid/authoritarian ideas he had---like having a USSR-style, May Day-lke mililtary parade down Constitution Ave., with tanks and rocket launchers and all the rest. He's a complete idiot who does not respect our system, our government, our laws--or anybody but himself.
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Sounds like Turd Sandwich for you...

I find it funny you talk about invading people when Biden (and most Ds and Rs) voted to invade Iraq.
 
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turbovol said:
Naay: it has nothing to do with shock value. He's vain, very emotionally needy and, by nature, a bully and a mobster. A longtime mob lawyer was his mentor when he was a young businessman. He's big on "loyalty"--a fundamental mob thing. He craves praise and power; he's spent his entire adult life promoting himself--usually fraudulently. He likes dictators because they are essentially mob bosses. That is the word he used to praise Orban--"he's the boss and can do what he wants to do." You can look up the exact quote--but that's very much what he said. He's amoral: the fact that Putin murders opponents, invades sovereign countries and kills thousands of innocents, destroys cities means nothing to Trump. The fact that Putin has spent decades trying to undermine the democratic West means nothing to him: He probably doesn't even realize it. I'll bet that Trump--ex-president--has NEVER read a book on U.S. foreign policy. He doesn't read!

He simply admires Putin because he can do what he wants whereas a U.S. president has constraints on his power. That is the beauty of our system. All of the moronic claptrap about "the deep state" was the gangster lashing out at people who resisted various crazy/stupid/authoritarian ideas he had---like having a USSR-style, May Day-lke mililtary parade down Constitution Ave., with tanks and rocket launchers and all the rest. He's a complete idiot who does not respect our system, our government, our laws--or anybody but himself.
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And the supreme irony of it all is that he reserves his greatest disdain for the very people who support him.
 
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luthervol said:
BDS!!!!! On full display.

Biden living rent free in your head. (another overused and nonsensical comment)

A ballot against trump = a ballot for Biden. Just the way it is.

I voted for Haley in the GA primary - and certainly not because I support Haley - same thing.
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I would vote for Haley again if she could run in the general against Biden. She might be on ballot anyway given the circumstances. Might be a different Democrat too. That we have these 2 clowns as our choices reflects poorly on our nation
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I would vote for Haley again if she could run in the general against Biden. She might be on ballot anyway given the circumstances. Might be a different Democrat too. That we have these 2 clowns as our choices reflects poorly on our nation
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Southpark called it years ago with their Giant Douche/Turd Sandwich episode.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I would vote for Haley again if she could run in the general against Biden. She might be on ballot anyway given the circumstances. Might be a different Democrat too. That we have these 2 clowns as our choices reflects poorly on our nation
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I would gladly vote for an anti-trump republican over Biden. I think it would be the best possible outcome for this country.
 
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www.washingtonexaminer.com

Lara Trump promises legal ballot harvesting to be part of new RNC strategy - Washington Examiner

Newly-elected Republican National Committee co-chair Lara Trump said it is time for the RNC to up its game and compete with more strategy against the Democrats, including encouraging legal ballot harvesting.
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“We need to be doing legal ballot harvesting — something that has never been done by the RNC, but I can promise you will be a huge part of what we’re planning to do,” she added. “And then come Election Day, and you’ll see that, I think, it’s not just about having poll watchers. It’s about having trained poll watchers and lawyers at locations around the country as necessary. And these are people who will be trained and able to physically count how many ballots are coming in. And how many ballots are going out.”
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's an old story that is being rehashed. No, Kelly didn't wait years to talk about this.


^^^^ This article is from 2021. ^^^^
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Thank you.

Kelly spoke out in support of invoking the 25th (if he were still on the cabinet) after Jan 6th. If I shared his sentiment regarding Jan 6th, I would have found that a pretty appropriate time to share the Nazi story if I hadn't shared it yet.

Still, that 2021 time-line does a lot to reconcile my disconnect.
 
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