War in Ukraine

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Since Putin murdered the middle-men leading his mercenaries, he's decided to just dispose of the "plausible deniability" afforded by Wagner's mercenary status, and jus folded them into Rosgvardia under his direct control.

 
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turbovol said:
Of course it's our business. Were World Wars 1 and 2 our business? The world would be a very different and dark place had we not
fought for freedom and democracy in Europe in those conflicts. Fortunately, we have bigger minds with broad historical perspective making decisions and not MAGA and the fraudulent, corrupt gangster.
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If you wouldnt send your child or grandchild to fight in Ukraine (and the vast majority of Americans wouldnt), then it isnt our business.
 
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WestTennesseeVol said:
😂😂😂 you’re as much of an American as North Korea is a free economy.
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Pretty sure our founders warned of entangling alliances, to say nothing of actually fomenting a color revolution in Ukraine

"America... goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all." John Q Adams

Yeah, my position is pro-Americana and rooted in founding wisdom.
 
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volgr said:
Pretty sure our founders warned of entangling alliances, to say nothing of actually fomenting a color revolution in Ukraine

"America... goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all." John Q Adams

Yeah, my position is pro-Americana and rooted in founding wisdom.
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By your logic, we had no business getting involved in World War 1 or World War 2.

The only position you take is the one Putin tells you to.
 
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WestTennesseeVol said:
By your logic, we had no business getting involved in World War 1 or World War 2.

The only position you take is the one Putin tells you to.
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Not my logic, the wisdom of our founders. You guys cant logically argue your position so you resort to calling everyone who disagrees with pro-Putin. It's absurd.
 
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turbovol said:
Of course it's our business. Were World Wars 1 and 2 our business? The world would be a very different and dark place had we not
fought for freedom and democracy in Europe in those conflicts. Fortunately, we have bigger minds with broad historical perspective making decisions and not MAGA and the fraudulent, corrupt gangster.
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Seems like the world fell apart the last 3 years. Whatever those broad historical dipshits have been doing….they might want to try the opposite because they clearly suck at foreign policy.
 
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volgr said:
Not my logic, the wisdom of our founders. You guys cant logically argue your position so you resort to calling everyone who disagrees with pro-Putin. It's absurd.
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Just so we’re all clear here, you don’t think we should’ve been involved in World War 1 or World War 2.

If it walks like a Ruski, acts like a Ruski, and talks like a Ruski, guess what, you’re a Ruski.
 
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utvolpj said:
We didn't have any reason to be in ww1. No one had any business being in that useless conflict. The aftermath of it led directly to ww2 in Europe
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Uh, may want to refresh your history if you don’t think we had any reason to be in WW1. Also, I don’t think anyone really had a choice there, Germany was doing to do what they wanted regardless if anyone thought the conflict was “useless.”

You are right about it leading to WW2.
 
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WestTennesseeVol said:
Just so we’re all clear here, you don’t think we should’ve been involved in World War 1 or World War 2.

If it walks like a Ruski, acts like a Ruski, and talks like a Ruski, guess what, you’re a Ruski.
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Think of all the good men we lost in both those wars. No, we had no business in those wars.
 
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WestTennesseeVol said:
Uh, may want to refresh your history if you don’t think we had any reason to be in WW1. Also, I don’t think anyone really had a choice there, Germany was doing to do what they wanted regardless if anyone thought the conflict was “useless.”

You are right about it leading to WW2.
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Ww1 was a useless war that had no business being fought. As such, the us had no use in involving itself in the last gasps of empires. The incompetent leaders had no idea what death and destruction they would cause the world and likely didn't care. Unintended consequences of entanglements
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Who’d have thought the Democrat tribe would be the war hawks? Nice to see you come out in favor of more needless US service member deaths in a foreign land fighting a conflict that’s non of our business
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Were WWI and WWII also "non" of our business?

Yet we were dragged into both because the world is interconnected. Trump isolationism and "America First" are self-absorbed fantasies of small minds.
 
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