2024 Presidential Race

[volfanhill]

You mean the missiles that the Ukraine could not even deploy at the time of the sale, per terms of the agreement?

There's a huge loophole in the GOP's claim that Trump's sale of Javelin missiles to Ukraine shows his support for the country

The Ukrainians cannot actually use the anti-tank missiles in the conflict against pro-Russian separatists based on the terms of the sale.

www.businessinsider.com

Thank you for that information

 

[dalton_vol]

yep. I saw one report saying that the republicans claiming dementia set the bar so low that Biden looked great. He looked as mentally fit, if not more so, than Trump - which isn't saying much.

cocaine can do wonders for an 82+ year old man for an hour.

i'd say this will be the last we'll hear from him until after the election. he's not capable of debating and he's not capable of doing the grind of running for re-election.

 

[luthervol]

cocaine can do wonders for an 82+ year old man for an hour.

i'd say this will be the last we'll hear from him until after the election. he's not capable of debating and he's not capable of doing the grind of running for re-election.

Well the campaign slogan of "I'm not Trump" is good for at least 50-60 million votes.

 

[hog88]

Well the campaign slogan of "I'm not Trump" is good for at least 50-60 million votes.

Its disappointing that there are that many dumb people in this country and just reinforces the need to reduce the size and scope of the federal government.

 

[luthervol]

Its disappointing that there are that many dumb people in this country and just reinforces the need to reduce the size and scope of the federal government.

What is even more disappointing is the realization that there are enough dumb people to nominate someone 3 times who is rightfully despised by 60 million voters. Now that is really dumb.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

I 100% believe we are in a better position today than we would have been had Trump won in 2020.

Wow... talk about losing any credibility you might have had.

You refuse to answer a very simple, and very direct question. And instead offer up nothing but an assumption and personal opinion, which relative to the question that was asked, adds absolutely zero value.

Well done... KJP is likely impressed.

 

[luthervol]

Wow... talk about losing any credibility you might have had.

You refuse to answer a very simple, and very direct question. And instead offer up nothing but an assumption and personal opinion, which relative to the question that was asked, adds absolutely zero value.

Well done... KJP is likely impressed.

Please, give me a break.
Your question was pointless.

But here is my answer. Yes, America is better off now. Now what?

We all know the follow up and could see it from 100 miles.

 

[BowlBrother85]

cocaine can do wonders for an 82+ year old man for an hour.

i'd say this will be the last we'll hear from him until after the election. he's not capable of debating and he's not capable of doing the grind of running for re-election.

I read the Republican "Biden won't debate," narrative all throughout the 2020 campaign in this forum .... more than likely, it's just as wrong now as it was then.

 

[utvolpj]

I read the Republican "Biden won't debate," narrative all throughout the 2020 campaign in this forum .... more than likely, it's just as wrong now as it was then.

If they put RFKjr on stage with Trump and Biden it would be amazing.

Actually just put anyone mentally competent on stage with them. Grab a person out of the crowd and they'd win

 

[VOLS INC.]

If they put RFKjr on stage with Trump and Biden it would be amazing.

Actually just put anyone mentally competent on stage with them. Grab a person out of the crowd and they'd win

I agree with you here. I would like to see all 3 on stage. I don’t buy into the RFK media narratives. He is very competent. I disagree with many of his policy positions, but he’s not the lunatic the MSM wants us to think he is.

 

[SlipKidVol]

I 100% believe we are in a better position today than we would have been had Trump won in 2020.

speculation

 

[luthervol]

speculation

You did see the word "believe", right?

Plus, we are all "speculating".

It's like saying the border would have been better secured under Trump.
Pure speculation. I'm sure some of you 100% believe it would have been better secured under Trump.

Kind of the same thing with my belief.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Please, give me a break.
Your question was pointless.

But here is my answer. Yes, America is better off now. Now what?

We all know the follow up and could see it from 100 miles.

 

[utvolpj]

You did see the word "believe", right?

Plus, we are all "speculating".

It's like saying the border would have been better secured under Trump.
Pure speculation. I'm sure some of you 100% believe it would have been better secured under Trump.

Kind of the same thing with my belief.

The border is really hard to argue given the Biden Administration's immediate actions upon taking office.

 

[dalton_vol]

What is even more disappointing is the realization that there are enough dumb people to nominate someone 3 times who is rightfully despised by 60 million voters. Now that is really dumb.

60 million people will hate anyone person with an R by their name, so it doesn't matter

 

[dalton_vol]

Please, give me a break.
Your question was pointless.

But here is my answer. Yes, America is better off now. Now what?

We all know the follow up and could see it from 100 miles.

you think America is better off now that 4-5 years ago?

 

[luthervol]

you think America is better off now that 4-5 years ago?

With COVID factored in.....yes.

 

[luthervol]

60 million people will hate anyone person with an R by their name, so it doesn't matter

Not even remotely in the same ballpark.

That equivalency you guys continually try to claim is simply a mental copout.

 

[dalton_vol]

Not even remotely in the same ballpark.

That equivalency you guys continually try to claim is simply a mental copout.

that's not a mental copout at all. that's accurate.

 

[luthervol]

that's not a mental copout at all. that's accurate.

It's not. It would be like me claiming that the democrats could run either AOC or Tulsi Gabbard and it would make no difference because they would be hated equally by repubs.
Total nonsense.

 

[joevol33]

@Tin Man , I'll further explain here the hypocrisy. The left spent 4 years calling Trump a racist, then not only nominated a racist, but elected him. From banning flights, to kids in cages, it was racist when Trump did it, and not one leftist said a word when Biden broke records. This isn't in defense of trump, he's a horrible person. It's just one of many examples of the hypocrisy. Here's another, I guarantee you, if we went video for video, nobody could post trump saying actual racist stuff, only once I can think of. Biden, and his wife, have both multiple times said racist stuff. If Trump has made the 7/11 comments, breakfast burrito, poor kids vs white kids, etc, the news would still be talking about it. If Trump banned flights from Africa, had record numbers of kids in cages at the border, what do you think? Heck, they spent 3 days, 24 hour coverage, because he got two scoops of ice cream. I'm just saying like the other thread, don't say take it here only when Biden is criticized, and be silent when others bash Republicans. I say be fair, both sides deserve it, don't just pick one side to defend, and be silent on the other, be fair.

 

[dalton_vol]

It's not. It would be like me claiming that the democrats could run either AOC or Tulsi Gabbard and it would make no difference because they would be hated equally by repubs.
Total nonsense.

absolutely. there are 50-60 million voters that would vote for anybody with a D by their name. look how many dead people have voted for a politician with a D by their name. all the guy or gal needs to do is appeal to their emotions and it's a lock.

 

[Tin Man]

@Tin Man , I'll further explain here the hypocrisy. The left spent 4 years calling Trump a racist, then not only nominated a racist, but elected him. From banning flights, to kids in cages, it was racist when Trump did it, and not one leftist said a word when Biden broke records. This isn't in defense of trump, he's a horrible person. It's just one of many examples of the hypocrisy. Here's another, I guarantee you, if we went video for video, nobody could post trump saying actual racist stuff, only once I can think of. Biden, and his wife, have both multiple times said racist stuff. If Trump has made the 7/11 comments, breakfast burrito, poor kids vs white kids, etc, the news would still be talking about it. If Trump banned flights from Africa, had record numbers of kids in cages at the border, what do you think? Heck, they spent 3 days, 24 hour coverage, because he got two scoops of ice cream. I'm just saying like the other thread, don't say take it here only when Biden is criticized, and be silent when others bash Republicans. I say be fair, both sides deserve it, don't just pick one side to defend, and be silent on the other, be fair.

I was not party to the discussion. I’m not with whom you were having this argument. Thank you for expressing your position in this forum. This is the proper place for political discourse.

 

[luthervol]

absolutely. there are 50-60 million voters that would vote for anybody with a D by their name. look how many dead people have voted for a politician with a D by their name. all the guy or gal needs to do is appeal to their emotions and it's a lock.

Certainly an easier conclusion to reach than would be one based on depth of thought,

 

[Tin Man]

If and when any of you whippersnappers express a knowledge of modern conservative thought, citing Barry Goldwater and acknowledging how Ronald Reagan’s 1980 campaign took “conservative” down the rabbit hole, then and only then can you engage me in political discourse. Otherwise, continue to talk amongst yourselves.