2024 Presidential Race

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hndog609 said:
I think my primary piece of objective evidence is that IF his physical and mental condition were a priority for his handlers he probably wouldn't have ran in '20 and there's no chance in hell he'd be on the ticket for '24. The objective I thought was pretty unambiguously stated in my prior post.
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Exactly, but you seem to be misinterpreting the said object...."to keep their side in power"

As soon as it becomes clear that the objective is less attainable with Biden than without, the move will be made.
Precisely because of that objective.
 
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luthervol said:
Exactly, but you seem to be misinterpreting the said object...."to keep their side in power"

As soon as it becomes clear that the objective is less attainable with Biden than without, the move will be made.
Precisely because of that objective.
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I think you hit the nail on the head with this.
 
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luthervol said:
Exactly, but you seem to be misinterpreting the said object...."to keep their side in power"

As soon as it becomes clear that the objective is less attainable with Biden than without, the move will be made.
Precisely because of that objective.
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Your point would seem valid except direct observation would make it appear they would try removing his skin and put an animatronic skeleton inside like the "Edgar suit" worn by the alien in the first MIB.

More to the point even your own view here invalidates your original assertion of Biden stepping down due to his own decision to do so based on the benevolent influence of "family, friends, and medical professionals.". And since I've already flatly stated they'd outright sacrifice his well being to keep him in the running if it helped their objective I obviously would agree they'd happily blow him out the air lock if he became viewed as an irredeemable liability. (That's Hogg's working theory at this point)
 
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hndog609 said:
Your point would seem valid except direct observation would make it appear they would try removing his skin and put an animatronic skeleton inside like the "Edgar suit" worn by the alien in the first MIB.

More to the point even your own view here invalidates your original assertion of Biden stepping down due to his own decision to do so based on the benevolent influence of "family, friends, and medical professionals.". And since I've already flatly stated they'd outright sacrifice his well being to keep him in the running if it helped their objective I obviously would agree they'd happily blow him out the air lock if he became viewed as an irredeemable liability. (That's Hogg's working theory at this point)
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It doesn't invalidate it at all. He will save face by publicly stepping aside....if that is the decision that is made.

I don't remember using the work "benevolent".
 
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luthervol said:
It doesn't invalidate it at all. He will save face by publicly stepping aside....if that is the decision that is made.

I don't remember using the work "benevolent".
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We're sort of back where we started. Is it "possible" a person of his diminished mental state but of high ego and great status/power could be convinced to step down of his own accord? Of course it's possible. If you look back my original observation was that such people (anyone, not just Biden) are far more recalcitrant given that scenario. And I'll reiterate there's precious little (if any) indication anyone in his camp has any interest in having him take that path. If anything there's been a blatant "There's nothing to see here." campaign that's been going on for some time now. Now if you wanted to move the goal posts and change stepping down of his own volition to getting him out of there for political expediency by whatever means I'd agree with that as well.

And while it may have been an inference on my part I don't think, given your statement, it was some wild reach to have "Good people trying to help the poor old man." being your point.

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They in fact do just that; with the help and input of family, friends, and medical professionals.
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Looks like Creepy Joe needs a diaper change during his speech.

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It's obviously a joke but the sad part is that it would shock nobody if he did take 2 intermissions and the media would spin it as perfectly normal.

Really says a lot that you can bet on brain freezes, if Biden confuses Trump, Obama and foreign leaders names etc... Joe is a laughing stock here and around the world.

https://sports.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/us-election/sotu-address
 
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hndog609 said:
We're sort of back where we started. Is it "possible" a person of his diminished mental state but of high ego and great status/power could be convinced to step down of his own accord? Of course it's possible. If you look back my original observation was that such people (anyone, not just Biden) are far more recalcitrant given that scenario. And I'll reiterate there's precious little (if any) indication anyone in his camp has any interest in having him take that path. If anything there's been a blatant "There's nothing to see here." campaign that's been going on for some time now. Now if you wanted to move the goal posts and change stepping down of his own volition to getting him out of there for political expediency by whatever means I'd agree with that as well.

And while it may have been an inference on my part I don't think, given your statement, it was some wild reach to have "Good people trying to help the poor old man." being your point.
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All good. Benevolence is certainly one of several ingredients.

My stance remains pretty much unchanged......and it's pretty much simply my opinion.
Biden is getting worse and not better. At some point along that continuum, it will become apparent to the ones who help make the decision that it is time for Biden to step aside. And that will be viewed primarily through the prism of beating Trump. (the one true objective) Biden may resist privately, but will publicly abide.

The same is true of Trump, it's just that he has no circle surrounding him serving as a two-way protective barrier.
Most Trumpers view that as a positive, but it is anything but. It simply contributes to the many legitimate dangers of Trumpism.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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Does the truth matter?

Biden was not declared "legally incompetent to stand trial." I have brought this to your attention before, when Rep. Elise Stefanik made the same mistake. Special Counsel, Robert Hur, declined to file charges, citing Biden's memory lapses and his belief that they could make him a sympathetic figure to a jury. Hur is not even qualified to make the professional assessment that someone is "legally incompetent to stand trial."

No cause is well-served with a blatant misrepresentation, such as this. Biden has enough legitimate issues where the truth should suffice on it's own as criticism.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
As Haley Ends Republican Race, Survey Finds 92% Of Her Voters Approve Of Biden's Performance

Haley's voters aren't just Democrats. They're the most rabid, left-wing, delusional, anti-Trump members of the Democrat party's already left-wing and delusional base.
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Does the truth matter?
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Does the truth matter? Ask @Rasputin_Vol

He posted this blatant lie yesterday and has yet to acknowledge it or attempt to defend it in any way.
 
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