Recruiting Football Talk VII

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SoilVol said:
I think his point was that Dooley is competent and knows football and the sport recognizes that. He's not a head coach, and that's fine. Neither is Rodney Garner.

Butch is not competent. He's not a football mind. And he's not a high quality person imo. There's a reason he couldn't get an actual assistant role anywhere. Arkansas State is going to fire him in the next couple of years. His success at Tennessee was recruiting some great players. Namely, recruiting Josh Dobbs. But his teams did and always will underachieve.
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I agree with all of that. But my point is, the object is to win, whether that's through recruiting, development, or X's & O's. Butch did that much better than Dooley. It's weird that people even have this debate. Dude gave Tennessee its best moments between Fulmer and Heupel. Yet you'd think he was worse than Dooley and Pruitt. He wasn't. And that's not debatable...because the records say so.
 
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Volunteer821 said:
Every single word of that was a lie. He seen the writing on the wall and his advantage was gone.
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52-49 broke his a$$, he knew in that moment the "tide" was turning
Yet he lied to recruits all year knowing this was his last go round, and yes he saw the writing on the wall and his advantage was evaporating
 
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volinbama256 said:
BVS kicking in for tonight. Don't like that it's away... and last year we were fighting for the top four spots and had to go to SC in football.
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The 2022 South Carolina team snuck up on us because they were trash on a stick until our game. This South Carolina team is fighting for a title — they aren’t sneaking up on anyone. Totally different circumstances.
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
The 2022 South Carolina team snuck up on us because they were trash on a stick until our game. This South Carolina team is fighting for a title — they aren’t sneaking up on anyone. Totally different circumstances.
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Unless they bought coach Barnes’ defensive signals from Connor Stalions.
 
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ReadCT said:
I really need to thank whomever told my 80 year old mom that WTF means, “wow that’s fantastic.”

Her texts are so much more entertaining now
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On the opposite end of the humor meter, a friend of my mom's was under the impression that LOL meant "lots of love." Didn't go over as well when a co-worker's loved one passed away and she sent her LOL. 😞
 
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TheRain said:
Nick Saban: Alabama Players' Lack Of 'Class' Contributed To Retirement
From Andrew McCarty MSN

Saban was "disappointed" by the lack of "class" from Alabama players following the team's loss to Michigan in the playoff.
"I want to be clear that wasn't the reason, but some of those events certainly contributed," Saban said. "I was really disappointed in the way that the players acted after the game. You gotta win with class. You gotta lose with class. We had our opportunities to win the game and we didn't do it, and then showing your [expletive] and being frustrated and throwing helmets and doing that stuff ... that's not who we are and what we've promoted in our program."
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Really Nick? After a loss you excused one of your players punching a young woman in the head as she ran by him because "he was scared."

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"I thought we could have a [expletive] of a team next year, and then maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring, and how much are you going to pay me?" he said. "Our program here was always built on how much value can we create for your future and your personal development, academic success in graduating and developing an NFL career on the field.
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"Value in your future" Really? Keeping them broke and with few options while others make millions off of them? Yeah, it was time for you to go.
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What a crock. He saw the handwriting on the wall and knew when the getting was good.
Now that he's stumping to be an ambassador of the game and fix college football he's all about class and his finer sensibilities are offended by tantrums after a loss? Everyone should follow his example and express their disappointment like him. Like when he gave Kiffin that azz chewin on national TV, in a classy and dignified way of course.
 
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Dear NFL Teams,

Jaylen Wright is the best RB and should be the first one taken and here's why.

5'11" & 210lbs = great size, the "prototypical" RB in most eyes

1. Fast he ran a 4.38 official at the combine, but his top-end speed is actually better
2. Durability 3 years at TN and played in a total of 34 games of the 39 played (only missed time with injuries as a freshmen)
3. Coachable every season his production (YPC) increased from 4.8 to 6.0 to 7.4 all while being firmly in a RBBC with Jabari Small, something Wright never complained about
4. Versatility his last year here he showcased his ability to be a threat in the passing game catching 22 total passes for an average of 6.4 per catch
5. Longevity despite playing in 34 games he's only carried the ball just 368 times and he's only 20 years old
6. Production in 2 of his 3 seasons he reached 800 yards rushing despite splitting time with Small

MarShawn Lloyd = less productive, spent more time in college
Trey Benson = less productive, spent more time in college
Tyrone Tracy Jr. = FAR less productive, and spent 6 years in college!
Audric Estime = less athletic and a LOT slower (4.71)

Jonathon Brooks = 1 year wonder, despite being at Texas for 3 years only appeared in 22 total games, only had 238 carries (187 came in last year) and is coming off a recent ACL tear
 
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NighthawkVol said:
I agree with all of that. But my point is, the object is to win, whether that's through recruiting, development, or X's & O's. Butch did that much better than Dooley. It's weird that people even have this debate. Dude gave Tennessee its best moments between Fulmer and Heupel. Yet you'd think he was worse than Dooley and Pruitt. He wasn't. And that's not debatable...because the records say so.
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This discussion is all pointless because they were all horrible head coaches. I wish we could just say they were equally bad and leave it at that.

It’s debatable because butch had the advantage of a massive legacy class, then when he let the strength coach go and most of his staff bailed or were let go, the team absolutely fell off a cliff, which one could surmise means all of the success butch ever had in his entire career was off the coattails of others.
 
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SoilVol said:
I think his point was that Dooley is competent and knows football and the sport recognizes that. He's not a head coach, and that's fine. Neither is Rodney Garner.

Butch is not competent. He's not a football mind. And he's not a high quality person imo. There's a reason he couldn't get an actual assistant role anywhere. Arkansas State is going to fire him in the next couple of years. His success at Tennessee was recruiting some great players. Namely, recruiting Josh Dobbs. But his teams did and always will underachieve.
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CBJ had a football mind, he just couldn't see the forest for the trees, always getting caught up in the small details. Dooley focused on locker room hygiene and couldn't find a single player capable of fielding a punt. Jones had several big recruits. Dooley skipped OL recruiting for a year. Both were frustrating at times. Dooley was worse.
 
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Kristy* said:
CBJ had a football mind, he just couldn't see the forest for the trees, always getting caught up in the small details. Dooley focused on locker room hygiene and couldn't find a single player capable of fielding a punt. Jones had several big recruits. Dooley skipped OL recruiting for a year. Both were frustrating at times. Dooley was worse.
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I don’t think butch had a football mind. I think he lucked up and had some coaches around him who had good football minds at his first two stops that he brought to Knoxville. When those folks were gone his idiot mind was on full display. Don’t disagree with anything you said about Dooley.
 
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volinbama256 said:
BVS kicking in for tonight. Don't like that it's away... and last year we were fighting for the top four spots and had to go to SC in football.
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Don't worry we have the officials halftime hotdogs rigged, they will be late as hades, works every time. Besides Lamont Paris is a newbie, he'll never know what hit him.
 
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Kristy* said:
On the opposite end of the humor meter, a friend of my mom's was under the impression that LOL meant "lots of love." Didn't go over as well when a co-worker's loved one passed away and she sent her LOL. 😞
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😆 Y’all are killing me! I can see me doing this lol. One of my good friends in high school is now the judge. My daughter worked in the courthouse with him. He was always sending out these little cheer you up text messages in the morning to everyone. He sent one out my daughter had to show me. I said, “What a cute little puppy!” She told me to look again…It was smiling but there was a pot leaf behind it! 😆😂 She said she had gotten on him the week before for sending the werewolf flipping a bird. He had to go home and look it up on the computer to see it with his old eyes. She said she could see why we hung out together lol…. But I always look those up before I share because I would do that!!
 
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