2024 Presidential Race

[VolTull]

How many Americans died in a civil war during his presidency?

Trump? Does Jan. 6 count?

 

[McDad]

Carter's issue was he refused to dumb down himself and his policies in order to improve the public's opinion of him.
Sacrificing the long term for short term popularity is how we've gotten where we are. People can be idiots.

Ever notice how with Luther the D's faults are attributed to their nobility of character, never a lack of good policy or leadership???

 

[volinbham]

Ever notice how with Luther the Ds fault's are attributed to their nobility of character, never a lack of good policy or leadership???

and it's an imagined nobility of character

 

[McDad]

You’re conflating Jimmy Carter the Man, with Jimmy Carter the President.

Jimmy Carter was a good and admirable Man.

Likely one of the best character people who's ever held office.

 

[hog88]

Amazingly, and to the great disappointment of many, there was no civil war during his presidency, He certainly did all he could to bring us closer than we have been in 150 years,

How many Americans were unified because of his presidency? lol
The Great Divider.

We are much closer today than at anytime since the 1860s.

 

[McDad]

and it's an imagined nobility of character

Yes! Good addition.

 

[hog88]

Trump? Does Jan. 6 count?

No

 

[luthervol]

Ever notice how with Luther the Ds fault's are attributed to their nobility of character, never a lack of good policy or leadership???

It is amazing how often that seems to be the case.; especially with Carter.....time has sort of proven it true.

 

[luthervol]

We are much closer today than at anytime since the 1860s.

That's what I said.
Can you say Trumpism????

 

[VolTull]

No

 

[McDad]

No

We should rank presidents by # of Americans (military and civil) killed on American soil as a result of their orders.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Michigan Republican Primary - 6% In

Donald Trump 64.5%

Hester Prynne 31.6 %

 

[volinbham]

We should rank presidents by # of Americans (military and civil) killed on American soil as a result of their orders.

delicious

 

[McDad]

It is amazing how often that seems to be the case.; especially with Carter.....time has sort of proven it true.

It's actually not amazing. It's simply partisanship, prejudice, and confirmation bias....The result of someone not willing to think critically.

 

[volinbham]

It is amazing how often that seems to be the case.; especially with Carter.....time has sort of proven it true.

Johnson, Clinton, Biden - all noble characters?

 

[McDad]

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Nice.

Appreciate the humor, Tull.

 

[volinbham]

It's actually not amazing. It's simply partisan bias, prejudice, and confirmation bias....The result of someone not willing to think critically.

but the other team is full of baddies

 

[McDad]

Johnson, Clinton, Biden - all noble characters?

Lincoln is in the lead. Routinely held up as one of the most noble.

Perhaps noble presidents are forced to kill Americans in order to be noble???

 

[volinbham]

Lincoln is in the lead. Routinely held up as one of the most noble.

Perhaps noble presidents are forced to kill Americans in order to be noble???

they needed killin

 

[VolTull]

Nice.

Appreciate the humor, Tull.

Thanks, Mc. A humorless life is a wasted life.

 

[volinbham]

I'd suggest George W is on par with Carter in terms of character as a person and poor as a POTUS

 

[McDad]

they needed killin

[Presidential aide hurries into room]
Aide: Mr President, alarming numbers in your nobility poll this month.
Prez: How bad?
Aide: Rock bottom
Prez: ...
Aide: ....
[In unison]: I guess it's time to kill Americans.

 

[McDad]

I'd suggest George W is on par with Carter in terms of character as a person and poor as a POTUS

You no likey G-dub?

 

[volinbham]

[Presidential aide hurries into room]
Aide: Mr President, alarming numbers in your nobility poll this month.
Prez: How bad?
Aide: Rock bottom
Prez: ...
Aide: ....
[In unison]: I guess it's time to kill Americans.

sounds familiar

Obama Administration Claims Unchecked Authority To Kill Americans Outside Combat Zones | American Civil Liberties Union

Federal Court Hears Arguments Today In ACLU And CCR Case Challenging Administration's Claimed Authority To Assassinate Americans It Designates Threats...

www.aclu.org

 

[volinbham]

You no likey G-dub?

au contraire - I think he's a good dude but not so good at the POTUS thing.

I admire his post presidency actions and inactions (staying the hell out of politics)