War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
They arent going to knowingly put citizens they suspect of being western sympathizers in their military. Make that make sense.
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Russia has done it before......... And Putin is an apt student if history of nothing else.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Prisoners that volunteered to sign contracts with PMGs like Wagner and Storm Z has indeed been the case. Bit there is no evidence of Russia press ganging prisoners to the front lines.

When you tell a half truth, you are still telling a lie.
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speaking of half truths volunteering in Putin's Russia is a lot different than volunteering here in the states.

there have been multiple videos ITT from Russian conscripts talking about being picked up from bars after a night of drinking. or them being lied to by recruiters and forced into Ukraine when they were told they would serve elsewhere. that may not be press ganging but its pretty darn close.
 
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Looks like the Russians just captured Krynky, the "bridgehead" on the Left Bank that Kyiv was allowing to be a damn meat grinder.

So now that is two huge battles within a week. Robotyne won't be far behind. Meanwhile in the northeast, a lot of chatter in the Lyman area with the expectations that the Russians will go into Slovyansk and Kramatorsk from the north.

Looks Ike the front is fracturing and no amount of money is going to be able to buy them more time, men or machines.

Ukraine Disputes Russia Claim on Bridgehead Seizure
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Looks like the Russians just captured Krynky, the "bridgehead" on the Left Bank that Kyiv was allowing to be a damn meat grinder.

So now that is two huge battles within a week. Robotyne won't be far behind. Meanwhile in the northeast, a lot of chatter in the Lyman area with the expectations that the Russians will go into Slovyansk and Kramatorsk from the north.

Looks Ike the front is fracturing and no amount of money is going to be able to buy them more time, men or machines.

Ukraine Disputes Russia Claim on Bridgehead Seizure
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so does this mean Russia has left behind the attrition stage and is going into land acquisition again? Want to get you on record when you flip flop in about a week or two.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Looks like the Russians just captured Krynky, the "bridgehead" on the Left Bank that Kyiv was allowing to be a damn meat grinder.

So now that is two huge battles within a week. Robotyne won't be far behind. Meanwhile in the northeast, a lot of chatter in the Lyman area with the expectations that the Russians will go into Slovyansk and Kramatorsk from the north.

Looks Ike the front is fracturing and no amount of money is going to be able to buy them more time, men or machines.

Ukraine Disputes Russia Claim on Bridgehead Seizure
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Lol
 
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LouderVol said:
you have claimed the Ukrainians are doing it. but when Russia is charged with the same crime you claim an issue with logic?
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Ukraine isnt putting Russian sympathizers in their military or at least not knowingly. I have never said that. You guys have been in this thread inbreeding so long you've become retarded. Good Lord.
 
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LouderVol said:
speaking of half truths volunteering in Putin's Russia is a lot different than volunteering here in the states.

there have been multiple videos ITT from Russian conscripts talking about being picked up from bars after a night of drinking. or them being lied to by recruiters and forced into Ukraine when they were told they would serve elsewhere. that may not be press ganging but its pretty darn close.
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What about the videos aplenty of Ukrainians being pulled off the streets…away from their families…to go fight for the deranged lunatic that is Zelensky?!
 
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Pacer92 said:
What about the videos aplenty of Ukrainians being pulled off the streets…away from their families…to go fight for the deranged lunatic that is Zelensky?!
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I take it you'd be insisting that our president unconditionally surrender the country, without any resistance, if the US were invaded by a foreign power?
 
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BeardedVol said:
I take it you'd be insisting that our president unconditionally surrender th country, without any resistance, if the US were invaded by a foreign power?
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No, pull all the kids and old men…ala Hitler and Zelensky.

That’s a recipe for a “win”, right?

Common sense says to cede some land instead of a whole generation or two of Ukrainian males…
 
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volgr said:
Yeah, lets knowingly put Russian sympathizers in our military ranks. You think that is a good idea?
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Dude, open communists have served in our military. Russians are pretty dumb but I don’t think they’d put any “western sympathizers“ in sensitive positions. They’d put them on the front line catching bullets, it’s a win/win for the Russians.

Sometimes you make yourself look pretty dumb inexperienced.
 
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hog88 said:
Dude, open communists have served in our military. Russians are pretty dumb but I don’t think they’d put any “western sympathizers“ in sensitive positions. They’d put them on the front line catching bullets, it’s a win/win for the Russians.

Sometimes you make yourself look pretty dumb inexperienced.
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Doesnt matter where you put them, they arent going to risk either internal sabotage or defects running to the other side and giving them operational info. Also, you guys think Putin is a murderous thug so why wouldnt he just kill them and not risk the above? It makes no sense.
 
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volgr said:
Doesnt matter where you put them, they arent going to risk either internal sabotage or defects running to the other side and giving them operational info. Also, you guys think Putin is a murderous thug so why wouldnt he just kill them and not risk the above? It makes no sense.
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😂 An infantry private, especially a conscript isn’t going to have any operational information nor a chance to sabotage anything. Come on dude.
 
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