Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Smokey123]

The issue is they promised him a starting role.....Vols told him he had every chance to earn it.

Whatever. Is done and I'm sure he did what he thought was best.

Don't fault Tennessee a bit though.

I don’t fault Tennessee either, but I also don’t fault Burns

 

[StoVol]

You either with us
Or against us

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You think they forget how to hit just like Barnes and Heupel forget how to coach??


I'm teasing, don't get your granny panties in a wad.

I was actually being dismissive of the Idiot Margin...

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I think the fanbase making it difficult is all smoke. Our ADs/Admin have done the LVs the same way they did football for a decade and a half. We'll find out if DW is any better when he makes a hire. TBF, I don't think Holly was the wrong hire or even that Kellie was (though she had a lesser resume, I don't think anyone would've been ok with Fulmer making a money hire for the LVs with football still a wreck), the issue there is hanging on to them way past the point in which it was obvious they weren't the one. DW is the first real AD we've had in a long damn time, he will have the ability to make a big time hire if he chooses to - the question will be whether or not he chooses to but no one will stand in the way of him going after the best *if* that's what he wants to do.

Ok

 

[tnhunter 10]

 

[tnhunter 10]

 

[tnhunter 10]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You either with us
Or against us

I don't understand how there is even a debate to be had on this...you go somewhere else and stand in our way...then I hope you f'n rot.

 

[KptVFL]

I don’t fault Tennessee either, but I also don’t fault Burns

Same. Would have liked for him to have stayed and earned a role though.

I still don't believe he made the right choice and understand the negative comments.

 

[volbeast33]

If that’s the case Ben Joyce would have been a top 15 pick. MLB teams are not taking a guy top 3 if they aren’t a viable starter in college or HS. Wake Forest has been producing pitchers like crazy lately and promised him to be in the weekend rotation. Vs UT who moved him to the Pen. It’s a pretty easy choice

Ben Joyce does not project as a starter…. Burns is a multi inning pitcher with elite arm metrics…. MLB cares about what the finished product will be…. not how you are in college or high school

 

[Enki_Amenra]

water hockey?

bull pool hockey

 

[CAVPUT]

You either with us
Or against us

It's "agin" us.

 

[screenthis]

Don't deny it, you had the bumper sticker on your automobile I Back Bush.

I got a lot of misinterpretations with my bumper sticker...'I love Bush'

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

He struggled in the starting role last year…. we made him a long reliever where he was very successful…. He could have earned a starting role again but decided to transfer.

Struggled is being nice

 

[Smokey123]

Ben Joyce does not project as a starter…. Burns is a multi inning pitcher with elite arm metrics…. MLB cares about what the finished product will be…. not how you are in college or high school

Name one pitcher drafted top 5 in the past 5-10 years that was a reliever in college. Heck name one drafted in the first round that was a reliever

 

[Volunteer821]

Georgia as well

And both fanbases make it so easy

 

[CAVPUT]

I don't hate KISS, but there are better bands. I thought they were cool as hell when I was a kid. Probably because of the movie they did where they had superpowers.

Well, to be fair, there were several really good bands that cited KISS as their inspiration. Even at my age, I still dig their music. One might say that it's "timeless"? Of course, I still enjoy Elvis, Fats and Sam Cooke so....

 

[KptVFL]

Game before ours just finished up.

 

[KptVFL]

Broadcast just said Vols coming up.

We just got on the field taking warm ups(like just stretched and are just now starting to throw) and the grounds crew is prepping the field.

Looks like it will be a while!

Here's a live shot:

 

[volbeast33]

Name one pitcher drafted top 5 in the past 5-10 years that was a reliever in college. Heck name one drafted in the first round that was a reliever

probably not bc that is a pretty rare guy….. i can name a starting pitcher taken in the top ten that struggled his junior year bc of his arm talent and how mlb projects him…. That would be Chase Dollander…. barely over .500…. poor era and whip but still taken number 9…Chase only averaged pitching one more inning per game than Burns…. Do you think that one inning would drop him that far?

 

[KptVFL]

Baylor just took the field for infield

 

[butchna]

Bluegrass. Country is country, bluegrass comes from the laments of the hard worked soul.

Cotton Pickin Kids…good lil group.

 

[Smokey123]

probably not bc that is a pretty rare guy….. i can name a starting pitcher taken in the top ten that struggled his junior year bc of his arm talent and how mlb projects him…. That would be Chase Dollander…. barely over .500…. poor era and whip but still taken number 9…Chase only averaged pitching one more inning per game than Burns…. Do you think that one inning would drop him that far?

Dollander didn’t get moved to the pen and his sophomore season was insanely good. Burns ? Since he was in HS was if he had the endurance to survive as a starter for a full season. Most pitchers that throw 100 regularly get burnt out or figured out mid way through the season. That happened last year and he got removed as a starter. If a college pitcher is a reliever there’s a typically a reason why and it limits how high they’ll get drafted. Can they become a starter at the next level? Sometimes but it’s not very common.

If burns survives as a starter all year without a dip he’s probably a top 3 pick. If he gets sent to the pen his draft stock will fall

 

[volinexile17]

Ben Joyce does not project as a starter…. Burns is a multi inning pitcher with elite arm metrics…. MLB cares about what the finished product will be…. not how you are in college or high school

I don’t necessarily disagree but it’s way more true for prep arms than college guys.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Greetings from Park City Utah. Nice view for a Cold Beer.