2024 Presidential Race

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turbovol said:
Trump's former Defense Secretary describing him as a clueless moron. Perhaps we'll learn that corrupt businessmen with mental problems do not make good candidates for public office.

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Trying to find the issue in what he says Trump will do. It's just fear mongering to an idiot base
 
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DC_Vol said:
Donald Trump left office in the midst of a fake Russia collusion scandal and the height of the COVID crisis. His approval ratings were awful.

Jose Biden is not weighed down by any of that. And his are worse 🤣
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One interpretation of that would be that on average, dems are simply smarter.


About one-third of Republicans say they believe Taylor Swift is involved in a covert government effort to help Joe Biden win the 2024 presidential election, a poll published Wednesday from Monmouth University found.
 
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nationalinterest.org

Robert F. Kennedy Jr: The Next President of the United States?

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is not a long-shot candidate for the White House anymore, and the more Americans learn about his campaign, the more obvious that’s going to become.
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According to a Quinnipiac survey, Kennedy beats both Biden and Trump with 36% support compared to the two big parties’ 31% and 30% respectively. The same survey also showed Kennedy with an even greater level of support among young people, winning 38% support among voters aged 18 to 34, compared to Biden’s 32% and Trump’s 27%.
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Not only is Kennedy leading among young people and independents, he’s also the most popular candidate in the race. According to a Gallup poll, Kennedy is the only candidate with a favorability rating of over 50%, reaching 52% in the January 2024 survey. And, according to a poll from ABC News, 34% of Americans see themselves supporting RFK Jr. in November.
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That’s a win in a three-way race against Biden and Trump.
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luthervol said:
One interpretation of that would be that on average, dems are simply smarter.


About one-third of Republicans say they believe Taylor Swift is involved in a covert government effort to help Joe Biden win the 2024 presidential election, a poll published Wednesday from Monmouth University found.
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You think money is infinite and govt solves problems. Spare me the intelligence debate
 
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McDad said:
Do me a favor, name three of the most neutral posters who participate in the PF other than the two of us.
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The point I was making only concerned the black vote and a key reason why the Republican Party has such little appeal to the average black voter.

That key reason : Through the practice of racial gerrymandering, the Republican Party has gone to extremes in order to reduce the collective importance of the black vote. Republican Party-controlled state legislatures and Governors across the country have engaged in a coordinated effort to consolidate their black votes into as few districts as possible.

As long as this practice is in place, the Republican Party will have no credibility when they court the black vote.

Simply put : Republicans don't get the black vote, because they try so hard to diminish the importance of the black vote. They blatantly and systemically try to lower the collective voice of the black voter at the ballot box. It is intellectually dishonest of you to pretend otherwise.

You have tried to deflect and change the subject away from the Republican Party's treatment of the black voter to a more general discussion of gerrymandering. That wasn't my point and you know it. You want to know why black voters don't support Republican Party candidates? Because Republicans try too hard to take away the importance of their collective voice, and they are smart enough to realize this. If Republicans want to make inroads into the black community, they should start by eliminating their systemic practice of racially gerrymandering districts at the state level.

A neutral poster would be capable of acknowledging that reality .... but that isn't you. You won't acknowledge that the racial gerrymandering of district maps by Republicans even happens. You will never do anything but deflect the discussion over to something unrelated concerning Democrats.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The point I was making only concerned the black vote and a key reason why the Republican Party has such little appeal to the average black voter.

That key reason : Through the practice of racial gerrymandering, the Republican Party has gone to extremes in order to reduce the collective importance of the black vote. Republican Party-controlled state legislatures and Governors across the country have engaged in a coordinated effort to consolidate their black votes into as few districts as possible.

As long as this practice is in place, the Republican Party will have no credibility when they court the black vote.

Simply put : Republicans don't get the black vote, because they try so hard to de-emphasize the importance of the black vote. They blatantly and systemically try to lower the collective voice of the black voter at the ballot box. It is intellectually dishonest of you to pretend otherwise.

You have tried to deflect and change the subject away from the Republican Party's treatment of the black voter to a more general discussion of gerrymandering. That wasn't my point and you know it. You want to know why black voters don't support Republican Party candidates? Because Republicans try too hard to take away the importance of their collective voice, and they are smart enough to realize this. If Republicans want to make inroads into the black community, they should start by eliminating their systemic practice of racially gerrymandering districts at the state level.

A neutral poster would be capable of acknowledging that reality .... but that isn't you. You won't acknowledge that the racial gerrymandering by Republicans even happens. You will never do anything but deflect the discussion over to something unrelated concerning Democrats.
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Are speaking for the black community?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm speaking as someone who has seen how Republicans draw their district maps. I'm also speaking as someone who believes that black voters are smart enough, and aware enough, to identify what is going on.
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Are they smart enough to be aware that they were better off with Trump in office and Rs running states?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm speaking as someone who has seen how Republicans draw their district maps. I'm also speaking as someone who believes that black voters are smart enough, and aware enough, to identify what is going on.
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Yeah a whole bunch says the’ll be going with Trump this next time bc democrats lie too much & don’t keep promises anymore since they are pandering to the illegals.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The point I was making only concerned the black vote and a key reason why the Republican Party has such little appeal to the average black voter.

That key reason : Through the practice of racial gerrymandering, the Republican Party has gone to extremes in order to reduce the collective importance of the black vote. Republican Party-controlled state legislatures and Governors across the country have engaged in a coordinated effort to consolidate their black votes into as few districts as possible.

As long as this practice is in place, the Republican Party will have no credibility when they court the black vote.

Simply put : Republicans don't get the black vote, because they try so hard to de-emphasize the importance of the black vote. They blatantly and systemically try to lower the collective voice of the black voter at the ballot box. It is intellectually dishonest of you to pretend otherwise.

You have tried to deflect and change the subject away from the Republican Party's treatment of the black voter to a more general discussion of gerrymandering. That wasn't my point and you know it. You want to know why black voters don't support Republican Party candidates? Because Republicans try too hard to take away the importance of their collective voice, and they are smart enough to realize this. If Republicans want to make inroads into the black community, they should start by eliminating their systemic practice of racially gerrymandering districts at the state level.

A neutral poster would be capable of acknowledging that reality .... but that isn't you. You won't acknowledge that the racial gerrymandering of district maps by Republicans even happens. You will never do anything but deflect the discussion over to something unrelated concerning Democrats.
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So you dont wish to nominate any panel members to impartially judge our discussion?

I wonder why?
 
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hog88 said:
Are they smart enough to be aware that they were better off with Trump in office and Rs running states?
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You are trying to deflect away from the subject of the systemic racial gerrymandering of district maps by Republicans at the state level. I'm not taking the bait.

If Republicans want to start attracting more black voters over to their side, then they should eliminate this all-too-obvious practice.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Yeah a whole bunch says the’ll be going with Trump this next time bc democrats lie too much & don’t keep promises anymore since they are pandering to the illegals.
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BULL $HIT.

I heard that crap in 2020. I hear it every election cycle. I even heard in the 2022 mid-terms. That never comes to fruition. 2024 will be no different.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Donald Trump left office in the midst of a fake Russia collusion scandal and the height of the COVID crisis. His approval ratings were awful.

Jose Biden is not weighed down by any of that. And his are worse 🤣
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For the first three years of Trump's presidency, the economy was doing reasonably well ... and his job approval numbers were terrible. Always between 40-43%. That was because of Trump's abrasive personality - which hasn't changed.

.... and the Mueller probe ended over a year before Trump left office. That was a dumb thing to say.
 
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So .... Nobody here has the integrity to admit that Republicans, at the state level, engage in the practice of racially gerrymandering district maps for the purpose of consolidating black votes into as few districts as possible?

I'm not surprised.

Before you can fix a problem, you must first be honest enough to admit that there is a problem. The Republican Party can't be honest enough with themselves to do that. You don't really want to change anything as far as the black vote is concerned.

Therefore, nothing will ever change.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
So .... Nobody here has the integrity to admit that Republicans, at the state level, engage in the practice of racially gerrymandering district maps for the purpose of consolidating black votes into as few districts as possible?

I'm not surprised.

Before you can fix a problem, you must first be honest enough to admit that there is a problem. The Republican Party can't be honest enough with themselves to do that. You don't really want to change anything as far as the black vote is concerned.

Therefore, nothing will ever change.
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They do it for the same reason democrats do. To win elections.


www.nbcnews.com

In a New York court, Democrats seek a redo after their bungled gerrymander

After a spate of wins in the South, a new map in New York could help Democrats take the House next year.
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www.brookings.edu

The gerrymander myth | Brookings

Neither party currently enjoys a significant aggregate advantage from gerrymandered districts.
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BowlBrother85 said:
BULL $HIT.

I heard that crap in 2020. I hear it every election cycle. I even heard in the 2022 mid-terms. That never comes to fruition. 2024 will be no different.
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Triggered much. ;) Got those panties all twisted again? It's all over the news how the black voters are leaving democrats in droves. You don't know that if you watch the MSM crap bc they don't deal in telling viewers any truth. MSM is democratic propaganda 24/7 who constantly try making Biden look like a sane person 24/7.
 
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