Recruiting Football Talk VII

[InVOLuntary]

That doesn't sound at all like he's a fan of our lawsuit. In fact, that whole article seems like a hit-piece on the Vols. I'll add that author to the list.

Sankey can suck a big turd. He had a chance to stand up for us and didn't. He knows exactly that TN has done nothing more, probably much less than TN including his bosses, Nick Saban and Kirby Smart. His anguish is nothing more than his inability to control this. He's part of the gangster group that runs all this.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

I feel you can read into Sankey’s comments both ways, interpreting them, as this author with an obvious agenda did, as him being totally against TN’s lawsuit; or interpreting them as him saying these lawsuits only add to the problems the NCAA has.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Weirdos

 

[DD4ME]

Read the article. It didn’t sound like Sankey said much of anything.

I do think he said a LOT about how the NCAA is failing to lead in an appropriate way. Their failure is why he and B1G commissioner are involved. That was the number 1 for me.

 

[DD4ME]

This screams to me as a directive for NCAA to stand down.

From Sankey:

"I tend to think if we look at the big scheme of things from an NCAA level and focus on trying to have the right set of oversight, make adjustments around outcomes of court cases, deal with the litigation that is already in front of us, that's the proper focus,"

"I think the pursuit of some of these particular cases through the enforcement process distracts us from solving the big problems," Sankey said.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Sankey can suck a big turd. He had a chance to stand up for us and didn't. He knows exactly that TN has done nothing more, probably much less than TN including his bosses, Nick Saban and Kirby Smart. His anguish is nothing more than his inability to control this. He's part of the gangster group that runs all this.

He never mentioned UT that I know of. And I don't see that he condemned the Tennessee AG's lawsuits. He actually called NCAA to task for misplaced priorities per enforcement and investigations while they need to be navigating the laundry list of existing lawsuits.

AAMOF, if you read into what he said about the NCAA's need to refine course based on the outcomes of the lawsuits they are facing, you can infer that he is supporting the validity of the lawsuits and expecting NCAA losses.

 

[OrangenSC]

Read the article. It didn’t sound like Sankey said much of anything.

He was quoted concerning the AGs' lawsuit. But maybe they left out things he said about it that would give a different picture of his view. That's often how they write these things.

 

[InVOLuntary]

He never mentioned UT that I know of. And I don't see that he condemned the Tennessee AG's lawsuits. He actually called NCAA to task for misplaced priorities per enforcement and investigations while they need to be navigating the laundry list of existing lawsuits.

AAMOF, if you read into what he said about the NCAA's need to refine course based on the outcomes of the lawsuits they are facing, you can infer that he is supporting the validity of the lawsuits and expecting NCAA losses.

He's been non-committal. That's enough for me. He should be out in front defending TN. He's not.

 

[rikberry31]

No how much money we have, decisions will always have to be made.

Very true, even if we have the money you don't want to spend foolishly or waste it. The player also has a decision weighing the financials of going pro vs. staying.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I do think he said a LOT about how the NCAA is failing to lead in an appropriate way. Their failure is why he and B1G commissioner are involved. That was the number 1 for me.

He found a way to feign unity with the NCAA while making the argument that the SEC/BIG need to step in and lead, and calling the dogs off of the current NIL allegation saber rattling.

 

[DD4ME]

I know these sound bites are cute, and I know some kids may need to hear some of this, but I do not see blasting this as being a winning recruiting strategy anywhere large or small.

 

[MarcoVol]

Sankey can suck a big turd. He had a chance to stand up for us and didn't. He knows exactly that TN has done nothing more, probably much less than TN including his bosses, Nick Saban and Kirby Smart. His anguish is nothing more than his inability to control this. He's part of the gangster group that runs all this.

I see the conspiracy has begun its move from Saban and Bama to Kirby to and UGA bc they’re the top program now.

Good stuff.

 

[Vols4us]

Sankey can suck a big turd. He had a chance to stand up for us and didn't. He knows exactly that TN has done nothing more, probably much less than TN including his bosses, Nick Saban and Kirby Smart. His anguish is nothing more than his inability to control this. He's part of the gangster group that runs all this.

The machine's authority is being challenged - legally - in front of the public who have questioned the intentions of the AA and the respective conference leadership for many years. They are all complicit in the scheme and know it. It is getting a bit uncomfortable for them.

Oh well.

 

[Smokey X]

Want this as my bedroom door

left to right is it???? ..Stu Aberdeen, Coach Mears, Ron Widby, ?, ?

 

[OrangenSC]

Sankey said nothing of the sort. He actually subtly told the NCAA in full view of the world that they need to drop the enforcement stupidities and get their priorities straight.

It should be a rule that anyone who posts a link must prove they read the article before posting.

That's a little harsh. I read the article. Did you read my post that accompanied the link?

I said "maybe", with a question mark. You know, asking a question.

 

[Ttucke11]

I see the conspiracy has begun its move from Saban and Bama to Kirby to and UGA bc they’re the top program now.

Good stuff.

I mean, Georgias QB is flaunting a 300K car, and we are in the headlines and being chased for LOIC/2nd offender penalties for a plane ticket we didn't pay for. The conspiracy on this one built itself.

 

[Skullbone]

Not much different than today.

Less poop in the streets back then even with the horses.......

 

[Orange_Crush]

He's been non-committal. That's enough for me. He should be out in front defending TN. He's not.

Did you read it?

He did as much as is appropriate in his position, and more than one may have otherwise expected. His latter quotes were literally a public attack from within. Knowing the SEC/BIC alliance that was recently announced, those quotes border on tectonic.

"We talk about those issues," he said. "This draft is introduced. This direction might be changed. But if we just keep going through these same types of environments (provided and directed by the NCAA) to guide our decisions or rely on for our decisions, then we're going to have the same pace of change (slow), the same discourse, the same thinking that ideas are going to be generated from some other corner. And we need to make sure we take that responsibility."

The NCAA's bureaucracy is untenable.

"We want to try to introduce some new perspectives, some new ideas perhaps," Sankey said. "Or more importantly, help cut through the bureaucratic tape that we face so often as we try to effect change."

SEC/BIG think we can do it better.

"We obviously have Attorney Generals that have been involved now in some of these state level activities," Sankey said. "None of that's contributing to the solid type of collegiate environment that we need."

"Given the environment we're in with the really big issues facing college sports, we've got a lot ahead of us in courts, in states and congress," he said. "I would like not to be in this circumstance (concerning Tennessee's lawsuit). But certainly, the Attorney Generals have the right to bring this. It will be decided. These things are going to be argued out. And we'll see the outcome, and then how we move forward from this particular matter."

Is this intended to put the AGs in a poor light, or the NCAA? It's the NCAA's stiff necks that keep inviting these suits. It's the NCAA's refusal to change that make them vulnerable to federal law, and keep giving states reasons to make anti-NCAA laws.

"I tend to think if we look at the big scheme of things from an NCAA level and focus on trying to have the right set of oversight, make adjustments around outcomes of court cases, deal with the litigation that is already in front of us, that's the proper focus," Sankey said, counseling Tennessee's efforts.

"I think the pursuit of some of these particular cases through the enforcement process distracts us from solving the big problems," Sankey said.

To the NCAA: Your leadership/oversight has been questionable. You'd better pay attention to these lawsuits, as they're likely to succeed. We need to be prepared for that beforehand. Lay off of the investigations and NIL threats. They're hurting us.

I'm not sure we should expect the SEC commissioner to be so boldly critical of the NCAA, its leadership, its processes, and its policies.

 

[DD4ME]

Pre-dates me. It is Whidby per other commentors. I never knew he was a 4 sport athlete and played NFL and professional basketball. Different times.

Does appear you are right on Aberdeen and Mears too.

 

[itsme]

I don't know if Vrabel was ever fully the problem...but the amount of injury issues the Titans suffered every season at some point has to be on the coaching staff and whatever they're doing (or not doing) to prepare for the season.

And as many pointed out the path to a SB is pretty universal, pay a top level QB, pay an elite pass rusher, pay a game changing WR, and pay for HOF level LT. In his time as the Titans HC I think LT is the only position that you could argue was actually paid...and even then Lewan's injury issues kept him off the field a lot.

I guess they though Marcus was going to be a top level QB...but they never paid an elite pass rusher or game changing WR until they could snag guys that were pass their prime.

Many of the injuries are because of Vrabel and his strength staff. You can't have the most injuries in the NFL back to back seasons and it just be "bad luck" its a problem within the system.

 

[LA Vol]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

Sankey is a self-serving powermonger. The guy who wrote this can't control his LSU bias, isn't interested in providing a balanced perspective and clearly doesn't like Tennessee. But what Sankey is saying, in his self-serving way, is that the NCAA focusing on enforcing past violations diverts focus from moving forward, which is the path everyone should be on. Sankey may not be all that fond of UT, but he is very fond of the value (i.e., $$$$) a strong UT can provide. When our interests align with his, he's an ally. A cheerleader, he is not.

 

[MarcoVol]

I mean, Georgias QB is flaunting a 300K car, and we are in the headlines and being chased for LOIC/2nd offender penalties for a plane ticket we didn't pay for. The conspiracy on this one built itself.

Yes bc they NCAA is trying to enforce recruiting rules that weren’t rules during Nico’s recruitment. But they’ll lose anyway.

UGA’s QB is a current player. Nothing to do with recruiting. Nothing in rules says a current player can’t sign an NIL deal with a car dealership.

 

[drvenner]

Is it, "he flicked me off" or "he flipped me off"?

Maybe it's crank off

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Many of the injuries are because of Vrabel and his strength staff. You can't have the most injuries in the NFL back to back seasons and it just be "bad luck" its a problem within the system.

Well they weren't the most injured team for four out of the six seasons. It's literally impossible to find any evidence beyond bad luck to explain 2021-22.

 

[Orange_Crush]

That's a little harsh. I read the article. Did you read my post that accompanied the link?

I said "maybe", with a question mark. You know, asking a question.

I genuinely apologize if that was too critical.

For context: I get irritated that our current culture is a headline culture where (a) supposed journalists sell **** takes by using headlines that don't match the actual content, and (b) they can keep doing it because our general public have gotten so lazy and gullible.

If you read the article and missed the disconnect between headline and content, then I apologize.

To answer your question, I think Sankey is UT's ally in the investigation. It's obvious from his quotes that he's publicly calling for the NCAA to stand down.