Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Sugaray13]

Not sure how to feel about this. I mean, yes, that he was being tampered with is interesting and newsworthy, and he should name names. But it also seems like he had actual interest in coming back, and we didn't do enough to get him to come back. I know not everyone would agree, but having Jalin this year would have been really nice.

May have been based more off the quarterback we had returning. Doesn't do any good to pay someone that kind of money if the quarterback struggles to get the ball to him in stride like Hooker did.

 

[knoxvol52]

Not sure how to feel about this. I mean, yes, that he was being tampered with is interesting and newsworthy, and he should name names. But it also seems like he had actual interest in coming back, and we didn't do enough to get him to come back. I know not everyone would agree, but having Jalin this year would have been really nice.

Jalin made correct decision left while his stock was high.

Bru McCoy wouldn't have came back this upcoming season if he hadn't have got injured.

 

[volbeast33]

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

May have been Heupel doing what was best for Jalin. He only could have hurt his draft stock by coming back

That’s what I was thinking as well. Hyatt wouldn’t have helped us much this year with the o-line and Milton’s play. It would have just hurt his ability to succeed past UT.

 

[engineerVOL]

Titan Up?

While that is an abomination, what percentage of games are won with the victor scoring 30? I dunno just asking.

Vrabel couldn’t win with the opponent scoring 21.

 

[knoxvol52]

The Mets enough said..

 

[OrangenSC]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

 

[drvenner]

Where does a one- legged server work?






At I-HOP..

Nice one

 

[drvenner]

Where does a one- legged server work?






At I-HOP..

There was a heated debate about theft at the restaurant, so I decided not to take sides.​

 

[Jimmy Football]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

There was a lot of editorializing in that article.

From last paragraph: “Perhaps some relief from all the histrionic, self-absorbed and silly lawsuits against the NCAA - like Tennessee's - could help.”

 

[Glitch]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

Hey! Sankey!

 

[Jimmy Football]

Hey! Sankey!

Read the article. It didn’t sound like Sankey said much of anything.

 

[knoxvol52]

Lady Vols today at 1 p.m. on ESPN+ .

Then Lady Vols Basketball at 7 p.m. vs Alabama on SEC Network+

 

[Glitch]

Read the article. It didn’t sound like Sankey said much of anything.

He could probably still use a good arse whoopin, just for poops and giggles.

 

[Sugaray13]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

Funny how Sankey said the NCAA is not healthy right now but we are supposed to just sit back and watch them destroy our team and university.

 

[DD4ME]

There was a lot of editorializing in that article.

From last paragraph: “Perhaps some relief from all the histrionic, self-absorbed and silly lawsuits against the NCAA - like Tennessee's - could help.”

I agree it was editorialized.

My take from the important quotes is that Sankey was not pleased with the NCAA picking this fight when we have bigger fish to fry. He's not happy with the lawsuits like TN AG, but they are a byproduct of focusing on the wrong things and not leading in this chaotic time.

"We're just not making the kind of progress on the real important issues," Sankey said and complained of the NCAA's "inability to make progress on decisions.

"We talk about those issues," he said. "This draft is introduced. This direction might be changed. But if we just keep going through these same types of environments (provided and directed by the NCAA) to guide our decisions or rely on for our decisions, then we're going to have the same pace of change (slow), the same discourse, the same thinking that ideas are going to be generated from some other corner. And we need to make sure we take that responsibility."

"We want to try to introduce some new perspectives, some new ideas perhaps," Sankey said. "Or more importantly, help cut through the bureaucratic tape that we face so often as we try to effect change."

"We obviously have Attorney Generals that have been involved now in some of these state level activities," Sankey said. "None of that's contributing to the solid type of collegiate environment that we need."

Sankey returned to that subject later when Finebaum followed up.

"Given the environment we're in with the really big issues facing college sports, we've got a lot ahead of us in courts, in states and congress," he said. "I would like not to be in this circumstance (concerning Tennessee's lawsuit). But certainly, the Attorney Generals have the right to bring this. It will be decided. These things are going to be argued out. And we'll see the outcome, and then how we move forward from this particular matter."

"I tend to think if we look at the big scheme of things from an NCAA level and focus on trying to have the right set of oversight, make adjustments around outcomes of court cases, deal with the litigation that is already in front of us, that's the proper focus,"

"I think the pursuit of some of these particular cases through the enforcement process distracts us from solving the big problems," Sankey said.

 

[Jimmy Football]

I agree it was editorialized.

My take from the important quotes is that Sankey was not pleased with the NCAA picking this fight when we have bigger fish to fry. He's not happy with the lawsuits like TN AG, but they are a byproduct of focusing on the wrong things and not leading in this chaotic time.

I thought the same thing. Pretty bad article and headline.

 

[LaagerVol]

Not sure how to feel about this. I mean, yes, that he was being tampered with is interesting and newsworthy, and he should name names. But it also seems like he had actual interest in coming back, and we didn't do enough to get him to come back. I know not everyone would agree, but having Jalin this year would have been really nice.

I think it was a good decision for him personally to go. With Joe at QB his production and draft stock would have likely dropped.

 

[Orange_Crush]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

Yah. I'm not sure I'd trust anything that article has to say.

That lawsuit came on the heels of the NCAA doing its job - investigating a Tennessee collective allegedly using a private jet to fly heralded five-star quarterback prospect Nico Iamaleava to campus during his recruitment, which is a violation of NCAA rules.

And Tennessee is an obvious recent repeat offender. The NCAA penalized Tennessee's football program (while under coach Jeremy Pruitt from 2018-20 before his firing) last summer for more than 200 rules violations, calling it "one of the worst the Committee On Infranctions has seen." There were 18 Level I violations that included around $60,000 in impermissible inducements and benefits for recruits. More major offenses now on the heels of so many major offenses could seriously damage the future of Tennessee football, and lawyers from Tennessee who love the Vols are trying to do something about it by going after the NCAA.

Mean old AG covering for an obviously guilty UT by going after poor ol' NCAA, who's just trying to do their job...

Looks like they completely misrepresented Sankey. After alluding that he's not a fan of UT's lawsuit (it doesn't even mention UT), and thus is siding against UT, we can actually read the quotes for ourselves.

"I tend to think if we look at the big scheme of things from an NCAA level and focus on trying to have the right set of oversight, make adjustments around outcomes of court cases, deal with the litigation that is already in front of us, that's the proper focus," Sankey said, counseling Tennessee's efforts.

"I think the pursuit of some of these particular cases through the enforcement process distracts us from solving the big problems," Sankey said.

Sankey is showing a united front with the NCAA by using the collective "we" per NCAA/SEC, then makes no bones about the fact that the NCAA needs to stop the stupid enforcement investigations it has going on, and realize that the sky is falling per these lawsuits. Get your **** together. Read the room. Make sane priorities.

Not sure how anyone can read that article past its headline and wonder if Sankey is in UT's corner per the NCAA investigation.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Funny how Sankey said the NCAA is not healthy right now but we are supposed to just sit back and watch them destroy our team and university.

Sankey said nothing of the sort. He actually subtly told the NCAA in full view of the world that they need to drop the enforcement stupidities and get their priorities straight.

It should be a rule that anyone who posts a link must prove they read the article before posting.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

What annoys me...I HATE articles that reference rules without sharing the source. The NCAA rule being violate (if it exist) should be easy to link and point to.

Vague accusations to just cover ****** writing has become far too normal, especially when TN is the target of the hit piece.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

National Media : vRaBeL iS tHe GrEaTeSt CoAcH eVeR!

Imagine if he was co-head coach with Shiano!

 

[Orange_Crush]

What annoys me...I HATE articles that reference rules without sharing the source. The NCAA rule being violate (if it exist) should be easy to link and point to.

Vague accusations to just cover ****** writing has become far too normal, especially when TN is the target of the hit piece.

Read like a NCAA paid hit piece trying to spin Sankey's quotes for the high % of the public that get their news from headlines.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

www.outkick.com

That doesn't sound at all like he's a fan of our lawsuit. In fact, that whole article seems like a hit-piece on the Vols. I'll add that author to the list.

 

[InVOLuntary]

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Not much different than today.