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@zjcvols i figured you may be the person to ask.

I am taking over a program this spring and want to bring some stats/analytics into the fold. It’s only myself and 1 other person and we will not have the time to do a full data regression analysis or anything cray, but would like some useful numbers to help with decisions.

If you had to choose a couple fairly easy to produce baseball stats, what would you use? OBS for hitters and ERA for pitchers? Any other ideas or places to look?
 
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C/O said:
@zjcvols i figured you may be the person to ask.

I am taking over a program this spring and want to bring some stats/analytics into the fold. It’s only myself and 1 other person and we will not have the time to do a full data regression analysis or anything cray, but would like some useful numbers to help with decisions.

If you had to choose a couple fairly easy to produce baseball stats, what would you use? OBS for hitters and ERA for pitchers? Any other ideas or places to look?
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Depends on the level of baseball.

The thing you should most likely concern yourself with pitchers is strikeouts. It’s the only universal thing they can remotely control.

Beyond that, WHIP would be more valuable than ERA.

How trustworthy are the historical stats and how good is the defense? Amateur levels of defense are almost always somewhere between tepid and horrendous these days. Amateur pitchers often throw so few innings that one or two blow ups will skew ERA to oblivion. Same goes for miss scored errors, misplayed balls, etc.

Offensively

Again, the level matters, and personal preference of baseball too but I’d focus on guys who control the strike zone and guys who barrel the ball. if the good lord is smiling on you, you might run across one or two that do both.

If you want the offensive statistics to tell you a story as the coach, you won’t need them. Sample size is so small. There will be guys who find themselves in the middle of everything. Being on base, scoring runs, driving in runs, etc. Stack those guys up and hope one can run.
 
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C/O said:
@zjcvols i figured you may be the person to ask.

I am taking over a program this spring and want to bring some stats/analytics into the fold. It’s only myself and 1 other person and we will not have the time to do a full data regression analysis or anything cray, but would like some useful numbers to help with decisions.

If you had to choose a couple fairly easy to produce baseball stats, what would you use? OBS for hitters and ERA for pitchers? Any other ideas or places to look?
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Assuming High School level, I would use WHIP and then I would use walk and K percentage instead of K/9 and BB/9 because that gets wonky especially with high school defense. I would also highly stress this, keep track of every pitch in game your kids throws and the result (was the pitch high, where was the groundout or pop up, etc.) That’s super helpful. We had a kid who thought his slider was his best out pitch. After the third start we showed him his change up was better with the tracking we had. He became even better when we made that adjustment.

For hitting, I would really stress OBP. Kids are told walks are bad in their development years and they are not! I would also keep tabs on pitches/PA a batter sees as well. You can use Runs Created. It’s a tad complicated but it’s a nice stat to measure overall offensive input at that level.
 
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FIP isn’t too hard to calculate either. You can use that too sometimes help a pitcher who might be down because he gave up 5 runs in an inning but his defense let him down
 
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@C/O When I played/coach, our school usually had 13-14 players and usually the end of bench guys were middle schoolers that never played on the high school team. An added benefit of pitch tracking is I would rotation of 2-3 kids that never played each inning, print pre-made sheets with the listed info and let them fill it out why I told them the pitch type, the location, etc. This kept them involved and asking questions and felt like they were part of the team.
 
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@TBrown @zjcvols its for the colleges club team. Pretty decent level squad. We have some legit talent. Have some guys that passed up D1 offers to stay close to home, chose to focus solely on academics for like pre-med and didn’t want the extra workload of varsity collegiate sports, or they just loved the campus, etc.

Best thing about it to me is that they are all doing it for love of the game. There are no scholarships or anything riding on it. Just the game.

All great and helpful info. I have never dug deep into statistics. Looking to start this year.
 
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@TBrown @zjcvols its for the colleges club team. Pretty decent level squad. We have some legit talent. Have some guys that passed up D1 offers to stay close to home, chose to focus solely on academics for like pre-med and didn’t want the extra workload of varsity collegiate sports, or they just loved the campus, etc.

Best thing about it to me is that they are all doing it for love of the game. There are no scholarships or anything riding on it. Just the game.

All great and helpful info. I have never dug deep into statistics. Looking to start this year.
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Happy to help anytime. I’ve been coaching pretty decent level squads for 10+ years now.
 
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