Recruiting Football Talk VII

[volbeast33]

I had his football card as a kid

 

[VolGee4]

Ya bc that’s the same as college football lol.

I’m sure the football alum of FSU were super proud watching their program get embarrassed.

I was actually with family over Christmas in Miami, and they are FSU fans. They weren’t going and said they weren’t watching (don’t know that). I understood their frustration when favoritism is shown.

I really don’t think many cared a whole lot. You can say what you want, but it was a by-product of decisions being made.

 

[volbeast33]

Being honest I have struggled to follow your line of logic on this topic. I am trying. I can only imagine you aren't speaking to likely results just the "fairness" aspect. My only issue with that is why wasn't Liberty allowed in by this logic?

The games matter imo. Not just winning though. Who you beat and how you beat them matters too.

Liberty is not a power 5 school…. The facts are that FSU would have been in if the qb hadn’t gotten injured…. that’s nonsense, imo…. The games don’t matter… all that mattered is what someone sitting on their couch thought about who the best teams were.

 

[VolGee4]

Bc the game literally happened. They got murdered. On national television.

All their “leaders” opted out. They took their ball and went home when they didn’t get their way.

You’re acting like an Orange Bowl victory wouldn’t have meant anything for their program. If anything, it meant WAY less for UGA who has actually had sustained success far beyond the Orange Bowl. UGA who had 2 opt outs. And one of those literally had surgery this season.

Meanwhile FSU’s team quit. And then got slaughtered.

Those situations aren’t the same. Yea, those UGA seniors really showed everyone- because they have 2 titles already!

Im not one who favors quitting, but ESPN deserved it. People talking out of both sides of their mouth- pure greed.

 

[StoVol]

 

[MarcoVol]

Those situations aren’t the same. Yea, those UGA seniors really showed everyone- because they have 2 titles already!

Im not one who favors quitting, but ESPN deserved it. People talking out of both sides of their mouth- pure greed.

So if the game had been on CBS instead of ESPN?

Bc FSU players still would’ve quit even tho it wouldn’t have affected ESPN.

 

[Adam Sandler]

I do think fans should recognize that we benefit if our conference whips that proverbial ass. I am not proposing anyone root for an arch rival, but us beating up rival conferences helps us in negotiations and recruitment. There is no debating that aspect, only your hatred for our rivals, which is more than fair.

Overplayed sentiment. Nobody is debating the SECs dominance. Has been such way for over 2 decades. The benefit of our arch rivals that are on pedistools being knocked down, made vulnerable, exposed is much more to our benefit than them beating a team across the country we barely have anything to do with or cross paths with.

If you want to root for Bama that’s your bed to lay in, but I won’t be joining you and I don’t buy the rationalization you’ve made up for it.

 

[Dudley Smith]

Ya bc that’s the same as college football lol.

I’m sure the football alum of FSU were super proud watching their program get embarrassed.

Imagine if you forked over about $5000 to take your family for the weekend in Miami to go see this game. Brutal.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

He has done a good job at Detroit, but he has to realize that he now has a team that can compete with the big boys and he can and should take points when they are essentially given to them.

Agreed. I like the guy. Started his coaching career with my Dolphins and was even the interim HC when Philbin was fired in 2015. You knew even at that point that he was going to be good after getting some more experience.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Ugh. Waddle I already knew about but Mostert also out vs Ravens. 2 offensive weapons we really needed against that defense. If Tua and company still win this game then I’ll be very pleasantly surprised. Not getting my hopes up though.

 

[StoVol]

 

[Volnut]

 

[SugarCC]

Y'all acting like FSU bringing every person back for the bowl game on a mission and winning would have changed something

The powers that be already decided. There's no re-vote folks.

Playing the rigged games is chump territory.

Whenever others have talked, for a long time now, about "powers that be" and "rigged games", aren't you one of those who lol, laugh emoji, and word salad (with chart and graph croutons) them to death?

 

[SugarCC]

 

[VolGee4]

So if the game had been on CBS instead of ESPN?

Bc FSU players still would’ve quit even tho it wouldn’t have affected ESPN.

lol…facts are facts. By product of decisions.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

 

[Adam Sandler]

I am happy to see UGA lose, but I think FSU would do well to not get embarrassed. I will tip my hat if they keep it close.

Would have been nice

 

[jave36]

Overplayed sentiment. Nobody is debating the SECs dominance. Has been such way for over 2 decades. The benefit of our arch rivals that are on pedistools being knocked down, made vulnerable, exposed is much more to our benefit than them beating a team across the country we barely have anything to do with or cross paths with.

If you want to root for Bama that’s your bed to lay in, but I won’t be joining you and I don’t buy the rationalization you’ve made up for it.

The perception that SEC is THE dominant conference is why Bama got in over FSU. Winning bowl season is a portion of creating that perception. Next year that perception could very well benefit us, though admittedly a 12 team playoff makes it less important.

Still, that perception isn't an overplayed sentiment. It matters. Nobody has debated the SEC dominance for 2 decades in part because the SEC has performed well against other conferences' teams in the post season. If several years went by where the SEC performed poorly in the post season, that dominance perception would diminish and we wouldn't get the benefits of that perception.

 

[DD4ME]

Liberty is not a power 5 school…. The facts are that FSU would have been in if the qb hadn’t gotten injured…. that’s nonsense, imo…. The games don’t matter… all that mattered is what someone sitting on their couch thought about who the best teams were.

I am asking genuinely then do you think it matters how they might have performed if let in? Is the decision strictly in fairness and earning it not on likelihood of winning? I promise not trying to debate you if that is your rationale, just trying to align.

 

[85SugarVol]

I just don’t think the outcome proves anything about the initial decision to leave them out. Totally different scenario if they are in the playoffs. These non playoff bowls are exhibitions.

FSU still wouldn’t have had their QB - which was always the point. They were a shell without their QB, nowhere near the same caliber.

All the Noles accomplished getting run 63-6 was making it that much easier for the CFP to select similarly the next time.

 

[GVol1966]

Bc the game literally happened. They got murdered. On national television.

All their “leaders” opted out. They took their ball and went home when they didn’t get their way.

You’re acting like an Orange Bowl victory wouldn’t have meant anything for their program. If anything, it meant WAY less for UGA who has actually had sustained success far beyond the Orange Bowl. UGA who had 2 opt outs. And one of those literally had surgery this season.

Meanwhile FSU’s team quit. And then got slaughtered.

It wouldn’t.
Not playing the game meant a lot more to the ones that set out than playing it.

 

[GVol1966]

FSU still wouldn’t have had their QB - which was always the point. They were a shell without their QB, nowhere near the same caliber.

All the Noles accomplished getting run 63-6 was making it that much easier for the CFP to select similarly the next time.

How does it make it easier or have any effect?

Anyone that thinks a team playing with half their players validated the committee’s decision has to have the I Q of a fly on crack!

 

[DD4ME]

You know what this did do. Get us talking about CFB. You know who that helps- all the pundits and figureheads.

 

[Adam Sandler]

It really doesn’t feel like Florida has had 3 straight losing seasons. I need them to have like at least 10 more

 

[volbeast33]